# Dewey Cheatem Undhow, are you a punk ass racist?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 10, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350 "2003-03-10T17:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/81 "2003-03-11T07:09:57Z")

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Now that I’ve been drinking, I’ve come up with a new take on the thread title. What if it wasn’t a “punk-ass racist” but rather a “punk ass-racist”?

I get these disturbing images of John Lyden or Joe Keithley or Jello Biafra standing in the street, trousers down, screaming “White ass is the only true ass!”

Yeah, that’s a mental picture I want to go to sleep with.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/82 "2003-03-11T07:43:37Z")

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—I knew I’d heard it recently in a movie and it just came to me… the guy stalking live raptors in Jurassic Park called one of them that, heh, just before it ate him.—  
Oh great, now you’re on with the raptor sexism kick again. It was “clever GIRL”

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**Author:** ![Lilly\_Putt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Lilly\_Putt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilly_Putt)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/83 "2003-03-11T11:29:33Z")

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I don’t see what’s so “easy” about Easyphil. Is he easy as a “punk?” Is he easy like Sunday morning? Am I a racist now for quoting Lionel Ritchie, who also happens to be black?

2trew beat me to the other punk joke. Bastard! (no offense to fatherless dopers, who would undoubtably be pitting me tomorrow for using “bastard” as an insult.)

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**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/84 "2003-03-11T12:12:59Z")

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> **I don’t see what’s so “easy” about Easyphil. Is he easy as a “punk?” Is he easy like Sunday morning? Am I a racist now for quoting Lionel Ritchie, who also happens to be black?**

You’re offending all the people with the name “Richie” who endure such a grammatical assault every day.  
And I’m trying to imagine a “punk-ass”…Is that a rather individual ass who dyes its hair odd colors, doesn’t bother to pluck the dingleberries, and shows its disregard for the establishment by passing gas at inopportune moments? If so, my ass has been quite the punk (as far as the last term) this evening…

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**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Phoenix\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phoenix_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/85 "2003-03-11T12:30:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Apos \*  
> **Oh great, now you’re on with the raptor sexism kick again.**

…Am I a bad person for reading that as “raptor sex kick” the first time through? :eek: 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/86 "2003-03-11T13:24:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> **DCH** has his faults. **Chief** among these is a lack of stunned respect and awe for an intellect that, while unconventional, far surpasses his own.

What is this, an anti-Native American dig?

I tell you, this board is _rife_ with racism!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lilly\_Putt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Lilly\_Putt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilly_Putt)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/87 "2003-03-11T13:48:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe K \*  
> \*\*You’re offending all the people with the name “Richie” who endure such a grammatical assault every day.  
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I refuse to discriminate against him just because he doesn’t spell his last name properly.😉

You, **Joe K** , are obviously a SPELLIST!:mad:

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/88 "2003-03-11T19:16:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 2trew \*  
> \*\*You hoof defeated me. \*\*

Clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/89 "2003-03-11T20:15:45Z")

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As long as we are being punk-ass racists -  
What goes clip clop, clip clop, clip clop, BANG! - clip clop, clip clop, clip clop…

An Amish drive-by shooting.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/90 "2003-03-12T04:38:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \*  
> \*\*I’m not familiar with that thread, but from where I come from, the word punk was not slang for a gay person in the black community. I don’t know if that has changed or not, but to my knowledge, historically it hasn’t represented that. \*\*

Funny, I’m white and I know the phrase “punk you out” means basically (in American black slang) “make you my bitch” which translates loosely to “anally rape you in order to assert my dominance over you.” By extension, “punk” itself has taken on the meaning of somebody who “gets punked” regularly. Not necessarily homosexual.

Maybe you should brush up before you start bitching about words whose meanings you really interpret broadly. Surely I don’t know more about “black culture” than you do? (Well, I did live in Irvington, NJ for 2 years, so maybe I do) Of course, that usage is really old – I think I first heard it on a Too Short album back in high school – so I don’t see how you don’t know of it.

Anyway, the OP is about the lamest pit rant I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen quite a few lately. If he called you “stupid nigger” then you’d have reason to complain. But “clever boy”? Nope.

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**Author:** ![Sagasumono](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Sagasumono](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sagasumono)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/91 "2003-03-12T05:10:27Z")

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Funny, I always though a punk was the guys with Pink Mohawks and a nose ring that had a chain connected to their waist by some form and they like to listen to the raido loud and waer leather liek that guy who flipped off Spock in Star Trek 4.

Anyway, didn’t that Senator from the South call Homer Simpson a “boy” on the last Simpsons?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/92 "2003-03-12T05:32:40Z")

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> You, **Joe K** , are obviously a SPELLIST!

Y’know, we already have a perfectly good word to identify those whose prejudices are based on spelling errors: orthographicist. There is no reason to go around coining new words such as “spellist,” you neologician. And, yes, I am a neologicist–and PROUD of it.

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/93 "2003-03-12T05:57:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*Funny, I’m white and I know the phrase “punk you out” means basically (in American black slang) “make you my bitch” which translates loosely to “anally rape you in order to assert my dominance over you.” By extension, “punk” itself has taken on the meaning of somebody who “gets punked” regularly. Not necessarily homosexual.  
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Funny indeed, did you look in the “American black slang” dictionary for that?

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> \*\*  
> Maybe you should brush up before you start bitching about words whose meanings you really interpret broadly. Surely I don’t know more about “black culture” than you do? (Well, I did live in Irvington, NJ for 2 years, so maybe I do) Of course, that usage is really old – I think I first heard it on a Too Short album back in high school – so I don’t see how you don’t know of it.  
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First of all you don’t know me or my frame of reference, you only know about your own and what you’ve experienced and if you feel comfortable making tremendous leaps based on that, cool, just know that, that is what you’re doing.

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> \*\*  
> Anyway, the OP is about the lamest pit rant I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen quite a few lately. If he called you “stupid nigger” then you’d have reason to complain. But “clever boy”? Nope. \*\*

I wouldn’t have to complain then, he would have been banned.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/94 "2003-03-12T06:07:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \*  
> **Funny indeed, did you look in the “American black slang” dictionary for that?**

No, genius\*\*. I lived in a black household in a black neighborhood in a black suburb of a mostly black city. Amazingly enough, I managed to figure out what phrases meant based on context and usage. That’s the way it works. It’s my opinion that if you need to use a “slang dictionary,” you shouldn’t be using slang.

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> **First of all you don’t know me or my frame of reference, you only know about your own and what you’ve experienced and if you feel comfortable making tremendous leaps based on that, cool, just know that, that is what you’re doing.**

Give the man a cigar!! He got the point after all!! YOU are the one making a tremendous leap, you clever boy, you. :rolleyes:  
\*\*Wait a minute. Einstein was a Genius. So does that mean I’m degrading all German Jewish Physicists by calling you one? Does that make me a racist too?

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/95 "2003-03-12T07:18:28Z")

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—Anyway, the OP is about the lamest pit rant I’ve ever seen—

Hey, he basically pitted himself. That’s pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/96 "2003-03-12T07:24:29Z")

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—Anyway, the OP is about the lamest pit rant I’ve ever seen—

Hey, he basically pitted himself. That’s pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/97 "2003-03-12T08:37:31Z")

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**Dewey** , you mean you don’t peruse every thread of every poster to determine their race (re-introduced into an anonymous setting, no less) and purge every possible word that could be misinterpreted by the deliberately thin-skinned?

How dare you, sir!

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/98 "2003-03-12T11:05:44Z")

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God, all he said was ‘Clever boy’ big deal, if you are offended by that then i’ve come to the Conclusion you’re a big baby, unless you’re offended by that as well 🙂

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/99 "2003-03-12T11:22:11Z")

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I found the OP quite funny. I spat out my coffee, pissed my pants and my retinas burst. Ha, he sure cheats them… AND HOW!!!  
😉  
But **shirley ujest** , it’s clear that he wasn’t intending to be racist.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Goo\_Fee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Doctor\_Goo\_Fee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Goo_Fee)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/100 "2003-03-12T11:32:41Z")

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HIJACK–

I have always liked your username DCU-- but it gets me just a tiny bit cuz I like the version “Dewey, Cheatham and Howe” so much better.

but hey-- it’s YOUR username.

carry on

oh-- and your “clever boy” comment certainly did not seem to be racist in the least.

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