# Dewey Cheatem Undhow, are you a punk ass racist? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 10, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350 "2003-03-10T17:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/121 "2003-03-12T20:10:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Truth Seeker \* > \*\*Maybe he’s also upset about the “punk ass” part. I mean, “racist,” OK, but “punk ass,” them’s fight’n words! > > Anyway, **Easyphil** , there’s nothing wrong with being sensitive to racial issues. The question is whether you use the opportunity to educate or alienate. Point out racism wherever you believe you see it, by all means. But don’t come in, guns blazing, assuming that a theoretically racist comment is an unquestionably racist comment. It’s counterproductive. \*\* Like I said before, I wouldn’t have asked a question if I wasn’t asking a question. Sure the language is _lively_, but a question nonetheless. > [@](#): > > \*\* > You did not, for example, take any exception to my comment about “The boy who cried racist” because you know what I alluded to and know that it has no racist connotations whatsoever. There is often a perfectly innocent explanation to perceived racial slights, as in the “niggardly” fiasco in D.C. a few years ago. The correct approach is to, politely, ask for clarification. The alleged racist will either clear up the misunderstanding or give you plenty of rope with which to hang them. In either case, you’ll save everyone, including yourself, a lot of useless aggravation. \*\* There are a number of people making boy references, that fact I haven’t said anything about them doesn’t mean that I don’t have any thoughts about nor does it mean that they are not trying to play with me in that regard. I believe my point has been made, even if everyone here doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/122 "2003-03-12T20:19:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dewey Cheatem Undhow \* > \*\*A short request for clarification woud hardly be a hijack. And if you really felt it would be a hijack, you could have easily asked me to clarify my remark in an email. > > Instead you thought it’d be a good idea to run to the Pit. Hardly the place for genuine questions of a non-accusatory nature. > > You wanted a public spectacle. You got one, though I’m betting it’s not quite the one you expected. \*\* Hey, you could have said, “yes, I am a racist, and I’m referring to you as a boy because I feel superior to you, because everyone knows whites are superior to blacks”, In which case the thread would have been in the appropriate place. 😉 As it turns out that’s not what you meant or intended, I have the clarification that I asked for. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/123 "2003-03-12T20:29:09Z")
:rolleyes: Really. Why didn’t you just ask me via email, rather than making a public spectacle? The fact that you continue to hide behind the veil of “it was just a question” is a real indictment of your judgment (and possibly your intelligence). ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/124 "2003-03-12T20:43:35Z")
Easy phil, just give us a break with the ‘comment police’ reports, can’t you just listen to this quote? ‘Listen to the better angels of your nature’ Can’t you just have blind faith in that what he said was really not offensive, in the racial sense I mean. Easy Phil, you seem to be a nice person and all, don’t waste bandwidth and time fightin a useless cause? Regards, Ryan\_Liam ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/125 "2003-03-12T21:15:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > > * * * > > There are a number of people making boy references, that fact I haven’t said anything about them doesn’t mean that I don’t have any thoughts about nor does it mean that they are not trying to play with me in that regard. \*\* Well, of _course_ we’re playing with you in that regard! You go all wackypack over the word “boy” in a perfectly innocent context and you don’t think you’re gonna get some shit about it? If you don’t want shit, don’t play in the Pit, boy. (which I mean in the sence of “adult male of any race showing himself to be lacking in adult maturity”) > [@](#): > > \*\*I believe my point has been made, even if everyone here doesn’t. \*\* Then shut up and go away. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/126 "2003-03-12T21:26:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tomndebb \* > **The board will go completely unused for three days, then the pent-up vitriol will overwhelm all the SDMB posters who will launch 13,000 simultaneous Pit attacks along with several thousand more MPSIMS pity whines, and the entire internet will halt, tripping over itself and curling up in the fetal position. > But you’d _like_ that, wouldn’t you?** Well it will never happen now that you’ve blown the lid off my plan. ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/127 "2003-03-12T21:49:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ryan\_Liam \* > **Can’t you just have blind faith in that what he said was really not offensive, in the racial sense I mean. > Easy Phil, you seem to be a nice person and all, don’t waste bandwidth and time fightin a useless cause?** Well, not if he is a ‘professional victim’. PV’s tend to run about looking to things to bitch about, no matter how far fetched they may be, to make it look like they are being held back by an ‘overpowering oppressor’. It gets them attention, and some time in the spotlite. It also, unfortunatly, allows other PV’s to rally around and support them. But when other PV’s don’t come to back the first one up, the first PV ends up looking like a fool and sits in his spotlite surrounded by :rolleyes:'s. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/128 "2003-03-12T21:59:27Z")
Joe sez: > [@](#): > > Funny, I’m white and I know the phrase “punk you out” means basically (in American black slang) “make you my bitch” which translates loosely to “anally rape you in order to assert my dominance over you.” By extension, “punk” itself has taken on the meaning of somebody who “gets punked” regularly. Not necessarily homosexual. Whoa, anally violate? :eek: I’ve never known it to mean anything like that. I’ve always used to terms “punk” and “sissy” interchangeably. Punk out = to behave as a sissy, sort of like **Easy Phil** is “punking out” of an apology right about now. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/129 "2003-03-12T22:12:41Z")
Boy, oh boy, does EasyPhil make himself into an EasyTarget for immature, if not downright boyish, humor by advertising his hypersensitivity to racism, wherever it appears and wherever it doesn’t appear. I wouldn’t be surprised if certain puerile types, henceforth, didn’t go out of their ways to interject the word “boy” into their otherwise innocent posts, just to bait poor EasyPhil, whose buoyant spirits may be depressed by having to deal with these types in the future, in addition to protesting all the other potentially racist remarks that may appear in this sordid world where racism is omnipresent. Boy, do I have a lot of sympathy for him. Oh, well, I’ll console myself by opening a container of some nice, good ol’ tasty Boysenberry yogurt, and just empathize away. Boy, he sure opened a can of worms here, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/130 "2003-03-13T03:33:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MeanOldLady \* > \*\*Joe sez:Whoa, anally violate? :eek: I’ve never known it to mean anything like that. I’ve always used to terms “punk” and “sissy” interchangeably. Punk out = to behave as a sissy, sort of like **Easy Phil** is “punking out” of an apology right about now. \*\* Real men don’t apologize. Punks wear weird clothes, play and/or listen to loud music. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/131 "2003-03-13T03:35:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kwyjibo \* > \*\*Well, not if he is a ‘professional victim’. > > PV’s tend to run about looking to things to bitch about, no matter how far fetched they may be, to make it look like they are being held back by an ‘overpowering oppressor’. > > It gets them attention, and some time in the spotlite. It also, unfortunatly, allows other PV’s to rally around and support them. > > But when other PV’s don’t come to back the first one up, the first PV ends up looking like a fool and sits in his spotlite surrounded by :rolleyes:'s. \*\* Hmmm, I didn’t realize that you could make money doing that. ---
**Author:** ![SLASH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SLASH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SLASH)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/132 "2003-03-13T05:19:12Z")
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. You’re about as sharp as a bowling ball, EasyPhil. ---
**Author:** ![Neroli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@Neroli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neroli)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/133 "2003-03-13T08:35:37Z")
Axe murderer? Could that be a veiled reference to the propensity of speakers of Black American English Vernacular to pronounce “ask” as “aeks”? Do you punk-ass crackers never stop? Cracker…did I say cracker? I am one–Doh! I meant devils. But I don’t mean “white devils,” I mean “blue devils,” which some people interpret as a demeaning epithet for guys named Duke, and Duke, see, was the dog in a great joke about flatulence I heard as a boy–Doh! Will this plague of racism never abate? ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/134 "2003-03-13T08:58:24Z")
[quote] _originally uttered by EasyPhil_ Many people here, which is a microcosm of the country at large, are uncomfortable with dealing with issues of race i.e. the experience of Black people at the hands of White people and how they feel about it. Only the most egregious statements or beliefs that are racist posted, will possibly motivate the participants in this thread to show up and pipe in. [quote] Have you even read the motto here? As far as I can tell, the reason most threads aren’t about racism is because, to the average doper, racism is a non-issue. In fact, I’m about to start a GQ thread that pertains to a matter or race that I have seen over and over again. I’m interested in it, and have no qualms about asking it here. Although I may be called a punk ass racist by the over eager PC police. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/135 "2003-03-13T12:37:02Z")
In the time/place where I grew up, among the black kids I hung around with: Punk= Derogatory term for male homosexual Bulldag=Derogatory term for lesbian YMMV ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/136 "2003-03-13T14:22:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally gurgled by Tristan \* > Have you even read the motto here? As far as I can tell, the reason most threads aren’t about racism is because, to the average doper, racism is a non-issue. > > In fact, I’m about to start a GQ thread that pertains to a matter or race that I have seen over and over again. I’m interested in it, and have no qualms about asking it here. > > Although I may be called a punk ass racist by the over eager PC police. \*\* You mean the whole _fighting ignorance_ thing? You’re right racism is a non-issue for the average doper, because the average doper is white. Wow! What a suprise. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/137 "2003-03-13T14:34:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > \*\*You’re right racism is a non-issue for the average doper, because the average doper is white. Wow! What a suprise. \*\* There’s a word for people who make generalizations about groups of people based on their racial heritage, and that word is racist. **EasyPhil** , you are a racist. ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/138 "2003-03-13T14:51:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > \*\*Hmmm, I didn’t realize that you could make money doing that. \*\* What? You’ve never heard of people crying racisim/sexisim/any-ism when non exisits, suing the opposing party and winning because people are afraid of calling the ‘victim’ a lier for fear of being called a racist/sexist/any-ist? :rolleyes: (Ain’t Political Correctness grand? It’s gonna be the undoing of this day-and-age.) ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/139 "2003-03-13T15:45:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Otto \* > \*\*There’s a word for people who make generalizations about groups of people based on their racial heritage, and that word is racist. **EasyPhil** , you are a racist. \*\* Race is an artificial construct. I think you’re referring to a **Bigot** or one who engages in **stereotyping**. This fight against ignorance isn’t getting any easier. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350/140 "2003-03-13T15:48:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kwyjibo \* > \*\*What? You’ve never heard of people crying racisim/sexisim/any-ism when non exisits, suing the opposing party and winning because people are afraid of calling the ‘victim’ a lier for fear of being called a racist/sexist/any-ist? :rolleyes: > > (Ain’t Political Correctness grand? It’s gonna be the undoing of this day-and-age.) \*\* I think you mean when someone settles, as opposed to being taken to court and losing because the charges have been proved. Right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dewey-cheatem-undhow-are-you-a-punk-ass-racist/160350.md?page=8)