# Dex:  Clarify, please

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**Created:** [August 9, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082 "2011-08-09T14:30:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![I\_Know\_Nothing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f04885/32.png) [@I\_Know\_Nothing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Know_Nothing)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/21 "2011-08-10T00:59:20Z")

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\*\*“THREE WORD PHRASE”  
“THREE WORD PHRASE”  
“THREE WORD PHRASE”\*\*x

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/22 "2011-08-10T02:53:25Z")

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[Yawn.](http://images5.cpcache.com/product/yellow-snoring-smiley/248235325v3_225x225_Front.jpg)

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/23 "2011-08-10T05:00:06Z")

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**Oakminster** , _please_ shut up. Your antics have killed every chance we had of getting **Czarcasm** to admit he’s wrong. You are running in circles now. **Dex** and **Twixter** aren’t at fault here.

“Justice” ain’t coming. But what is coming is both **Czarcasm** and **TubaDiva** being smart enough to learn from their mistakes. They won’t admit it, but I’m pretty damn sure they’re smart enough to try to avoid shitstorms like this in the future. The point’s been made.

So drop it.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/24 "2011-08-10T05:50:16Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> **Oakminster** , _please_ shut up. Your antics have killed every chance we had of getting **Czarcasm** to admit he’s wrong. You are running in circles now. **Dex** and **Twixter** aren’t at fault here.
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> “Justice” ain’t coming. But what is coming is both **Czarcasm** and **TubaDiva** being smart enough to learn from their mistakes. They won’t admit it, but I’m pretty damn sure they’re smart enough to try to avoid shitstorms like this in the future. The point’s been made.
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> So drop it.

I hadn’t posted to this thread for over 12 hours until you called me out. I got no issue with Twickster here. I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks of this thread. I want a reply from Dex. If you want to pit me, go for it. Otherwise, we have nothing further to discuss here.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/25 "2011-08-10T06:28:04Z")

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C’mon buddy. We both know your problem is with **Czarcasm**.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/26 "2011-08-10T08:07:51Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I hadn’t posted to this thread for over 12 hours until you called me out. I got no issue with Twickster here. I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks of this thread. I want a reply from Dex. If you want to pit me, go for it. Otherwise, we have nothing further to discuss here.

Dude…seriously, just stop. **Dex** doesn’t have to justify or explain anything to you. **Twickster** already said that he misspoke. What more do you need?

With all due respect, you strike me as the sort of person that, if God (or the deity or your choice) came down and said that He (or the gender of your choice) was taking you up to heaven (or the afterlife of your choice), so that you could sit and rule at His right hand, you’d bitch that the seat was cold.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/27 "2011-08-10T11:40:08Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I want a reply from Dex.

Perhaps you should hold your breath.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/28 "2011-08-10T12:38:30Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> “University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.” – Henry Kissinger

Thank you for the exact quote! It’s what this ridiculous series of threads has been reminding me of, but I didn’t know who said it.

(FTR, I think the original warnings that set the whole thing off were very silly and in poor judgment, but that turning it into a big deal is just some recreational outrage for people who can no longer tune into Judge Judy).

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/29 "2011-08-10T13:15:01Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> (FTR, I think the original warnings that set the whole thing off were very silly and in poor judgment, but that turning it into a big deal is just some recreational outrage for people who can no longer tune into Judge Judy).

No, turning it into a big deal makes it so big a headache that the powers that be will not do it again. It’s about all you can do once appeals to right and wrong fail. Heck, it’s even [biblical](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+18%3A1-8&version=NIV), straight from the mouth of Jesus himself.

Not that I’m participating this time. My blood pressure got way too high the last time I participated in fighting a **Czarcasm** Warning.

And not that I think it’s appropriate in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/30 "2011-08-10T13:46:35Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Not that I’m participating this time. My blood pressure got way too high the last time I participated in fighting a **Czarcasm** Warning.

Fortunately you don’t have to, since when you turned into a big deal last time, it became so big a headache that the powers that be didn’t do it again. You’re just like Jesus in that respect.

Literal laugh-out-loud post there, **BigT**.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/31 "2011-08-10T15:22:51Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Thank you for the exact quote! It’s what this ridiculous series of threads has been reminding me of, but I didn’t know who said it.
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> (FTR, I think the original warnings that set the whole thing off were very silly and in poor judgment, but that turning it into a big deal is just some recreational outrage for people who can no longer tune into Judge Judy).

Is it your POV then that no one should care about what they see as an unjust banning on this board because ‘the stakes are so small’? Or am I misunderstanding your point (and if so, what is it then?)

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/32 "2011-08-10T15:36:48Z")

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Who was banned? All I see so far was a couple non-consequential warnings (i.e. warnings that are more than likely to do little more than sit and collect dust), a judgment call disagreed with by a few rather vocal members of the Usual Suspects, several “I’m not touching you!” threads, and … and … whatever this particular tantrum is with a US demanding someone personally apologize and take his lumps.

Oh, wait, there was one suicide by mod. So, yeah, sorry I forgot about that. If that’s your idea of an ‘unjust banning’, well, yes, then no one should care about that. You want suicide by mod to be the rule?

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/33 "2011-08-10T15:44:44Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Who was banned? All I see so far was a couple non-consequential warnings (i.e. warnings that are more than likely to do little more than sit and collect dust), a judgment call disagreed with by a few rather vocal members of the Usual Suspects, several “I’m not touching you!” threads, and … and … whatever this particular tantrum is with a US demanding someone personally apologize and take his lumps.
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> Oh, wait, there was one suicide by mod. So, yeah, sorry I forgot about that. If that’s your idea of an ‘unjust banning’, well, yes, then no one should care about that. You want suicide by mod to be the rule?

This thread isn’t to rehash the pros and cons of **SoulFrost’s** banning, but thanks for your contribution anyway.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/34 "2011-08-10T15:49:35Z")

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So your comment about an “unjust banning” really was empty? So you agree that this is a lot of noise caused by the Usual Suspects and nothing more? Great!

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/35 "2011-08-10T15:57:17Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> **what they see as** an unjust banning

I’m not sure what you’re getting at, **Rhythmdvl**. In this thread, I did not even make a comment about an unjust banning. There seems to be a consensus opinion forming in this thread that even if you do think the banning is unjust, you should STFU about that, because ‘the stakes are so small.’ I’m questioning that reasoning.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/36 "2011-08-10T15:59:04Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Is it your POV then that no one should care about what they see as an unjust banning on this board because ‘the stakes are so small’? Or am I misunderstanding your point (and if so, what is it then?)

Only that it’s ridiculous for people to get _this_ upset over a disagreement on some seriously petty shit.

Note that nowhere in that sentence do I say you shouldn’t actually disagree.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/37 "2011-08-10T16:01:40Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Only that it’s ridiculous for people to get _this_ upset over a disagreement on some seriously petty shit.
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> Note that nowhere in that sentence do I say you shouldn’t actually disagree.

That precisely. I think the original action taken was unwise, but talk about martyrdom, references to Jesus, and this whole “We Shall Overcome” vibe is way out of hand. If the cashier at McDonald’s puts pickles on your burger even when you said “no pickles,” it’s not time to call 911.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/38 "2011-08-10T16:15:51Z")

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No one has called 911. This is ATMB, which is explicitly for the purpose of discussing mod actions. The forum is being used in the way it was intended, and actions that have interfered with free discussion on a messageboard are being dealt with by discussing them on a messageboard.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/39 "2011-08-10T16:33:13Z")

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Thanks Shodan. I admit I have contributed some parody stuff here, perhaps in attempt to lighten things up, but am a little tired of the people who show up to belittle those who object to what’s happened, lumping all and any who object into a broad category which includes those who took protest too far. And then when called out, make cutesy comments from their own soapboxes.  
It’s hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dex-clarify-please/592082/40 "2011-08-10T16:45:33Z")

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Nnnno, I’m pretty sure I’m only talking about guys like **SoulFrost** and **Oak** , and not everyone who’s disagreeing is going so over the top. However, as always, it’s a vocal minority who ruins it for everyone else.

In one of these threads, **Irishman** made a fantastic post about the situation. Not all disagreement need be hysterical.

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