# Dexter 10/17/2010 Beauty and the Beast

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 18, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526 "2010-10-18T04:01:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/21 "2010-10-19T12:07:43Z")

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> [@Kaio](#):
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> As for why she didn’t try to bust the door down… having been very recently described as having a fever too high to think straight, and at most having access to the antibiotics (if she even took them) for what, a day? I imagine she wasn’t really feelin’ the strength to kick a door down.

That’s one thing that drove me nuts about the chase. Dexter is in extremely good condition. She’s battling a fever and has lost a lot of blood over the last few days he should have caught up in about 10 seconds. It wasn’t so bad when it was cutting between the two so you could pretend she had a huge headstart but when it showed them both running. :smack:

Also to echo what others have been saying Dexter was complaining about his abandoned kill room when he took out animal control guy. He must have moved her there as he could secure it. It’s hard to see but I think there was some metal mesh over some of the windows. It seemed to be latticework for vines to grow on no doubt someone like Doakes would have punched his way through it but it might have been too much for her.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/22 "2010-10-19T12:35:45Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> AuntiPam, you haven’t seen any of the Bourne movies. Julia Stiles was in at least the last one, maybe a couple of them. I’m always mixing up [Julia Stiles](http://www.newhairstyles2010.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/05383_031108_stiles_300x400.jpg) with [Elizabeth Rohm](http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/2/21097/15_2008/elizabeth%20rohm.jpg).

[useless trivia] Julia Stiles’ character in the Bourne series is the only one that appears in all three movies ( other than Bourne himself).[/useless trivia]

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/23 "2010-10-19T12:39:19Z")

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I don’t have a problem with her not being able to break down the door because she was so weak. And the windows had bars on them. My biggest problem is that Dexter never seems to sleep!

I wish he’d have been seen giving Lumen a pillow and a blanket and some food. And some water to clean up with. I mean, geesh, what kind of knight-in-shining is he?

If I had to choose between a car full of drunk, horny frat boys and a man chasing me wielding a knife, I’m going with the frat boys. That whole segment seemed completely contrived and I think the storyline would have been better served leaving them out altogether.

I think Quinn has serious feeling for Deb and even though he’ll eventually figure out what’s going on with Dexter, eventually his love for her will allow him to let Dexter off. Surely they can’t kill off yet another one of Deb’s lovers.

I’m thinking that the nanny might come from an abusive situation.

The baby who plays Harrison is absolutely adorable, though I wish they’d quit having his mom (or whoever) smiling at him off-stage because when he reacts, it makes him look a little schizophrenic. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/24 "2010-10-19T14:55:02Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> If I had to choose between a car full of drunk, horny frat boys and a man chasing me wielding a knife, I’m going with the frat boys. That whole segment seemed completely contrived and I think the storyline would have been better served leaving them out altogether.

That didn’t make much sense to me either. If I were in her position, being chased by Dex (who, as far as I know, could be one of the guys that was holding me hostage) I’d have dove right through the open window while yelling “DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE”. I’m guessing she’s going to have some sort of deep seated fear of men/teens/groups of guys/crowded cars, something to do with her attackers.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/25 "2010-10-19T15:52:06Z")

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She’s the Sharron Angle of hostages. 😛

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/26 "2010-10-19T17:03:45Z")

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So what’s your guess on Lumen’s back story, how Dead Animal Guy found her? Didn’t she say something to Dexter like “You’re not going to sell me, are you?” And DAG said “I’m putting them out of their suffering!”

White slavery? Porn films? DAG cleans up after?

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/27 "2010-10-19T18:25:55Z")

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I’m thinking sex slavery. She did say, “Are you going to sell me?” and then later said that Boyd wasn’t her only one. So I’m thinking that there’s an underground network that sells women.

As far as putting them out of their suffering, I’m wondering if she was possibly a prostitute.

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/28 "2010-10-19T18:28:26Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> That didn’t make much sense to me either. If I were in her position, being chased by Dex (who, as far as I know, could be one of the guys that was holding me hostage) I’d have dove right through the open window while yelling “DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE”. I’m guessing she’s going to have some sort of deep seated fear of men/teens/groups of guys/crowded cars, something to do with her attackers.

Yeah, either that makes no sense at all or there’s something else going on there that we haven’t been told yet. Based on the super-slo-mo from Lumen’s POV when they drive by, I’m guessing there’s something else going on. (At first I thought she was having some sort of fever hallucination or something.) Also, she said that Dead Animal Guy wasn’t the first to “do this” to her, so I suspect the writers are dropping these things in as foreshadowing for some reveal later on.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/29 "2010-10-19T19:28:21Z")

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Would have been ten times funnier had Dexter done the slow methodical stalk walk like real monsters do…

I doubt she was a hooker, as she supposedly had child/husband to return to - except they hadn’t filed a missing report on her.

I had expected her - when talking with Dex and dex said “you have a family…” to say, “but I killed them, thats what got me here”.

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/30 "2010-10-19T19:42:49Z")

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Unless I missed something, she has a mom and dad (as indicated in the letter), but Dexter made up the husband and kid thing for the sake of getting her luggage from the hotel.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/31 "2010-10-19T19:47:40Z")

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> [@Kaio](#):
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> Unless I missed something, she has a mom and dad (as indicated in the letter), but Dexter made up the husband and kid thing for the sake of getting her luggage from the hotel.

That was my impression, too.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/32 "2010-10-19T23:48:04Z")

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Hey, I have a question I forgot about earlier. Dexter scanned her fingerprint and said that she had a completely clean record, not even a parking ticket, so _why_ did scanning her fingerprint yield any results? Other than teachers (in NH, anyway) do any other groups of non-criminals regularly get fingerprinted? I know I had my fingerprints taken when I was five for a program intending to keep them in case kids get kidnapped, but I seriously doubt that any police station can access those like they can (?) the ones I had done for the school systems I worked for.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/33 "2010-10-19T23:53:21Z")

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He pulled up an image of her driver’s license which appeared to have a fingerprint on it. Do FL DLs have a finger print on them?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/34 "2010-10-20T00:05:23Z")

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Okay, rewatched that part. The DL was from MN and didn’t have a fingerprint. I’m not sure why it pulled her up. She must have been fingerprinted for something at some point. Could very well be something non-crime related.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/35 "2010-10-20T00:12:19Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Hey, I have a question I forgot about earlier. Dexter scanned her fingerprint and said that she had a completely clean record, not even a parking ticket, so _why_ did scanning her fingerprint yield any results? Other than teachers (in NH, anyway) do any other groups of non-criminals regularly get fingerprinted? I know I had my fingerprints taken when I was five for a program intending to keep them in case kids get kidnapped, but I seriously doubt that any police station can access those like they can (?) the ones I had done for the school systems I worked for.

I think cops have access to military fingerprint files, maybe she worked for the army at some point?

Not really impressed by this season. I hope something happens soon that isn’t just a rehash of a previous seasons plotline.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/36 "2010-10-20T00:12:36Z")

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If she was ever a Federal employee, she was probably fingerprinted. I dunno about MN state employees.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/37 "2010-10-20T01:13:42Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> If she was ever a Federal employee, she was probably fingerprinted. I dunno about MN state employees.

Or worked a job where she needed to be bonded. Or cashed a check at motherfucking BofA. 😃

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/38 "2010-10-20T02:09:21Z")

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Does this technology exist anywhere outside TV Land – scanning a fingerprint instantly identifies someone, gives you a picture of their driver’s license, and a copy of a motel bill?

Law enforcement programs can do all that?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/39 "2010-10-20T02:14:22Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> Does this technology exist anywhere outside TV Land – scanning a fingerprint instantly identifies someone, gives you a picture of their driver’s license, and a copy of a motel bill?
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> Law enforcement programs can do all that?

They can also take surveillance footage and zoom in to a very small area without losing any resolution. Oh, and all cell phones show the callers name in giant block letters.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-10-17-2010-beauty-and-the-beast/557526/40 "2010-10-20T02:31:49Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> Does this technology exist anywhere outside TV Land – scanning a fingerprint instantly identifies someone, gives you a picture of their driver’s license, and a copy of a motel bill?

According to the FBI:

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> How fast it works: The average response time for an electronic criminal fingerprint submission is about 10 minutes

So not instant, but close. I guess for extra realism, they could’ve had Dexter stare at a progress bar for ten minutes, but thats not exactly thrilling TV.

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