# Dexter 12/11/11 Talk to the Hand

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 12, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907 "2011-12-12T14:37:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/41 "2011-12-13T17:23:00Z")

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Dex took quite a risk sending a recognizable and threatening phone video to a guy whose face was on every state (and possibly Federal) BOLO list. He put a lot of faith into Travis’s ability to get from wherever he was to the marina without getting spotted.

In fact, for a city with that many serial killers, Miami is quite laid-back. Wanna bloodstain a statue in a public square? No problem. Wanna set up an elaborate corpse-centered display in broad daylight? Hey, as long as it brings in the tourists…

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/42 "2011-12-13T17:25:22Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> The therapist (analrapist?): I’m starting to wonder what her role is in the show. Is she just some sort of Dear Diary person? A way for the writers to show us what Deb is feeling without talking to the screen like Clarissa Darling or typing it out like Doogie Howser?

…and in the season finale, we discover that Deb only went to the therapist once, and the rest of their conversations only took place in her mind.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/43 "2011-12-13T17:43:43Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> …and in the season finale, we discover that Deb only went to the therapist once, and the rest of their conversations only took place in her mind.

…as the show takes a flying leap over the shark pit.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/44 "2011-12-13T18:21:59Z")

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> [@CJJ](#):
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> There’s an easy out for that…Dexter thwarted DDK’s plans for Wormwood, so it’s natural nutso Travis would target him as the Anti-Christ in his Revealation tableau. I doubt the cops will find Travis’ cellphone.

this -

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/45 "2011-12-13T18:23:08Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Dex took quite a risk sending a recognizable and threatening phone video to a guy whose face was on every state (and possibly Federal) BOLO list. He put a lot of faith into Travis’s ability to get from wherever he was to the marina without getting spotted.
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> In fact, for a city with that many serial killers, Miami is quite laid-back. Wanna bloodstain a statue in a public square? No problem. Wanna set up an elaborate corpse-centered display in broad daylight? Hey, as long as it brings in the tourists…

the rest of the city is hiding from Michael’s Charger.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/46 "2011-12-14T02:02:14Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> …and in the season finale, we discover that Deb only went to the therapist once, and the rest of their conversations only took place in her mind.

Or the therapist is really a demon. 😛

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Out of curiosity:
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> I missed last week’s episode, and for some reason it is the only episode not available On Demand through my cable. Has anybody else had this omission from their On Demand service?

Not this show in particular, but I have had that happen with other series. Other times I’ve had shows disappear long before the “ends” date arrives. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/47 "2011-12-14T12:24:35Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Dex took quite a risk sending a recognizable and threatening phone video to a guy whose face was on every state (and possibly Federal) BOLO list. He put a lot of faith into Travis’s ability to get from wherever he was to the marina without getting spotted.
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> In fact, for a city with that many serial killers, Miami is quite laid-back. Wanna bloodstain a statue in a public square? No problem. Wanna set up an elaborate corpse-centered display in broad daylight? Hey, as long as it brings in the tourists…

BOLO?

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**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/48 "2011-12-14T12:34:25Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> the rest of the city is hiding from Michael’s Charger.

Michael C Hall or Michael Westen?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/49 "2011-12-14T12:39:35Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> BOLO?

Be On LookOut, i.e. the cops are all looking for him, and there’s quite a good chance one will find him with his phone and a video therein of “hey, it’s that blood guy from Homicide.”

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/50 "2011-12-15T17:35:10Z")

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I don’t know about you guys but I feel sorry for the character of Jamie, Angel’s sister/Harrison’s babysitter/Dexter’s on-call slave. She might as well adopt Harrison herself because she’s the only person who ever seems to take care of him. It pisses me right off how Dexter always takes advantage of her kindness in looking after his kid while he’s out indulging his “dark passenger” all the time.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/51 "2011-12-15T18:20:36Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> She might as well adopt Harrison herself because she’s the only person who ever seems to take care of him.

Don’t worry…she won’t have to take care of Harrison much longer – it’s not exactly a stretch to figure she’s going to be Louis’ first victim.

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**Author:** ![clarkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@clarkstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clarkstar)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/52 "2011-12-15T18:51:20Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Can I just say: Ick.
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> I understand Deb and Dexter are not blood relatives but…ick.

but they are. they have the same bio dad, although deb doesnt know this

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/53 "2011-12-15T18:58:30Z")

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> [@clarkstar](#):
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> but they are. they have the same bio dad, although deb doesnt know this

No they don’t. Dexter established his paternity as that guy who died in season one, leaving Dex his house.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/54 "2011-12-16T04:00:11Z")

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The thing Dexter later found out was that Harry was having a relationship with Laura Moser (Dexter’s bio mom), but Harry did not father Dexter. I believe Dexter took a sample from his bio dad in the morgue to prove paternity?? I’m not 100% sure on that, but that whole episode where Dexter travels with Deb and Rudy to clean out his bio dad’s house I distinctly remember there was no room for doubt that the corpse was Dexter’s father. (Dexter also finds out his dad was murdered, but the local M.E. scoffs at/gets insulted by the suggestion.)

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/55 "2011-12-16T04:27:23Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> The thing Dexter later found out was that Harry was having a relationship with Laura Moser (Dexter’s bio mom), but Harry did not father Dexter. I believe Dexter took a sample from his bio dad in the morgue to prove paternity?? I’m not 100% sure on that, but that whole episode where Dexter travels with Deb and Rudy to clean out his bio dad’s house I distinctly remember there was no room for doubt that the corpse was Dexter’s father. (Dexter also finds out his dad was murdered, but the local M.E. scoffs at/gets insulted by the suggestion.)

Correct on all counts.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/56 "2011-12-16T22:01:18Z")

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> [@clarkstar](#):
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> but they are. they have the same bio dad, although deb doesnt know this

> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> No they don’t. Dexter established his paternity as that guy who died in season one, leaving Dex his house.

Plus the post by **Martin Hyde**

I have a terrible memory for this kind of detail especially across seasons (which is why I can rewatch/reread things so easily and they’re almost like new! It’s a feature, not a bug!)

Can you explain the above quotes? I don’t remember Deb and Dex having the same biodad even being a plot point (though with my memory they may have focused a whole episode on it and I still wouldn’t remember :(…) can you jostle my memory just a little?

I remember Deb finding out that his mom was involved with Harry, but I don’t remember Dexter finding this out–how did he? Who was it that turned out to be his real biodad? Was he another guy chainsawed up in the storage box (weren’t there more than one adult in that?)

Sorry for sounding stupid, but I honestly have an almost learning-disability problem with following plot points over seasons very well. For example, I ALWAYS watch the “last week on…” segment before a new episode, and invariably I have and “oh hey! yeah!” moment while watching it. It’s frustrating and it’s embarrassing to admit, but there it is.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/57 "2011-12-16T22:13:09Z")

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There was some question on the bio dad of Dexter during the season where Deb was looking into Harry’s confidential informants and found out Harry had been sleeping with Dex’s mom.

This led to some wonderment as to whether or not Harry was, in fact, Dex’s dad - but the season 1 plot line would indicate this is not the case.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/58 "2011-12-16T23:34:46Z")

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Ah ok. I remember some of that now. thanks.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/59 "2011-12-17T00:24:05Z")

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I always got the idea that maybe that whole thing was just a setup by Rudy, and maybe it wasn’t Dex’s actual Y chromosome donor.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-11-11-talk-to-the-hand/605907/60 "2011-12-17T01:44:38Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> I always got the idea that maybe that whole thing was just a setup by Rudy, and maybe it wasn’t Dex’s actual Y chromosome donor.

Dex took a blood sample from the guy’s corpse and has his own lab run a comparison between that blood and his own. Remember Deb intercepting the results and having a shitfit that Dex was somehow disrespecting Harry by doing this? And then she told him that oh by the way, the results were a match.  
And BTW, **Opal** , I have that same [del]bug[/del] feature – an _SVU_ from two seasons back? Sure, I don’t remember a damn thing!

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