# Dexter 12/18 This is The Way The World Ends

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 19, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704 "2011-12-19T03:01:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/41 "2011-12-20T11:04:45Z")

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Yeah, that was one of my chief complaints in a previous thread. The scene with Travis murdering his sister could’ve been one of the most powerful, harrowing moments in TV history - assuming Hanks had the acting chops, which is not likely, but still, worth taking a shot - and they did it just to preserve the supposed surprise reveal. What a waste. They could’ve even just rearranged them chronologically and had both anyway.

Plot holes everywhere and completely skipping the good stuff they set up, this season is a mess. The only thing I really liked about it was the fact that they stopped using the obnoxious dream sequence lighting whenever he talked to Harry or Brian. Oh, and that it didn’t end with some schmaltzy “God is really out there, and he’s watching out for you Dexter” type ending that’s condescending towards atheists like almost every other fiction that’s dealt with religion has done. So there’s that.

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**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/42 "2011-12-20T15:06:10Z")

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> [@CJJ](#):
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> Matsuka’s budding romance

It’s Vince Masuka on TV and Masuoka in the books. I see where you’re going with the silent T and all _but it’s not spelled that way._ _twitch_

I agree with you, Dexter seems unedited to me, as though there’s no review whatsoever. It really feels like they are filming from a script with handwritten notes in the margins that say things like, “clean this up,” “continuity,” “flesh this out later.” But everyone just ignores the edit marks because, fuck it, they get nominated for awards all the time.

It’s like the writer from season one died and they’ve just been cobbling together seasons from his or her notes ever since.

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**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/43 "2011-12-20T15:14:48Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Holy Fuck!

The exact words that came out of my mouth! I wonder how many people said that at the exact same time.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/44 "2011-12-20T17:30:59Z")

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> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#):
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> The exact words that came out of my mouth! I wonder how many people said that at the exact same time.

\<raises hand\>

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/45 "2011-12-20T19:01:17Z")

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I said “Finally!”, not “Holy Fuck!”.

FYI, in the 1st book, Deb finds out at the climax of the book, and in further books it’s simply ignored. Very unsatisfying, I’m sure the series will address it better. There’s no place to go but up, really.

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**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/46 "2011-12-20T19:27:07Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> In short expecting Dexter to be caught is like expecting someone to identify Clark Kent as Superman. Now you just watch it like a Marvel comic with Dexter as a dark Superhero that works only in a comic based world. Not the type of series I signed up for.

Given the writer’s disinterest in developing storylines, I half suspect that the next season premiere will begin with Deb fainting on the spot (remember, she had a previous panic attack at the images in that church), Dex quickly cleaning up, and when she comes to her brother convincing her it was all an hallucination.

Not likely, I agree, but the fact it’s even plausible tells you how far this series has fallen.

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**Author:** ![goldmund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@goldmund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goldmund)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/47 "2011-12-20T20:18:06Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I said “Finally!”, not “Holy Fuck!”.
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> FYI, in the 1st book, Deb finds out at the climax of the book, and in further books it’s simply ignored. Very unsatisfying, I’m sure the series will address it better. There’s no place to go but up, really.

Well, it’s not so much ignored, as handwaved around when it does come up. Such as Deb being stabbed and winding up in the hospital moments after deciding she wasn’t sure she could handle the whole brother-as-serial-killer-thing.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/48 "2011-12-20T20:22:39Z")

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I was thinking about something like that. She faints, and when she wakes up she’s blocked it from her memory as it’s too traumatic. Silly, but it’s been done before.

Then every one of Deb’s trips to the therapist would be flirting with the danger that she’d remember. Of course the writers would probably just ignore that and go on without ever mentioning the incident again.

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**Author:** ![velvetjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5f9b8f/32.png) [@velvetjones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velvetjones)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/49 "2011-12-20T20:23:01Z")

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Books? What books?

[Oh](http://www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/dexter/aboutbooks.html)

Boy, do I feel stupid. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/50 "2011-12-20T22:03:13Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I was thinking about something like that. She faints, and when she wakes up she’s blocked it from her memory as it’s too traumatic. Silly, but it’s been done before.

LaGuerta shows up, and through an astonishingly convenient series of events, gets blamed.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/51 "2011-12-20T22:28:17Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> LaGuerta shows up, and through an astonishingly convenient series of events, gets blamed.

I would pay to see that…

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/52 "2011-12-21T00:59:44Z")

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I’m a Dexter newbie - just watched the entire series over the last month. Couple things bothered me throughout.

1. Does Dexter ever work a full day? He seems to be able to come and go whenever he wants and doesn’t have to explain why he ran out the door and was gone for the afternoon.

2. How does he haul these bodies around with no one noticing? He knocks out Travis on the roof and then manages to haul him to his car in an area swarming with cops and no one notices? And with as many security cameras as a major city has, not one of them saw this?

3. How could his brother have dived 150 feet at night to recover one of Dexters victims?

Things like that bother me.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/53 "2011-12-21T01:19:39Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> 1. Does Dexter ever work a full day? He seems to be able to come and go whenever he wants and doesn’t have to explain why he ran out the door and was gone for the afternoon.

They sort of mention this in the first season. His job is a lot easier then his co-workers think, so it doesn’t take very much time, and he doesn’t go out of his way to point out that he’s underworked. And he’s on call a lot of the time, so he has a flexable schedule. He picked the job in part for the freedom it gave him to pursue his hobby.

Plus, presumably we only look in on his life when he’s pursing a difficult kill. I imagine he still spends most of his days infront of a microscope, we just never see it because the episodes take place during the “exciting” parts of Dexter’s life.

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> 1. How does he haul these bodies around with no one noticing? He knocks out Travis on the roof and then manages to haul him to his car in an area swarming with cops and no one notices? And with as many security cameras as a major city has, not one of them saw this?

Yea, Dexter is basically magic when it comes to transporting bodies without anyone noticing, and with not showing up on security cameras as well. They get a little lazier with this every season, and this last season it was pretty ridiculous. He moved Gellars body out of the Church while there was an active police search in the area, and then moved Travis out of a skyscraper in downtown Miami at mid-day. And of course manages to manhandle a rather obese corpse up to the top of a grain silo with only his imaginary brother to help him.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/54 "2011-12-21T01:40:19Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> They sort of mention this in the first season. His job is a lot easier then his co-workers think, so it doesn’t take very much time, and he doesn’t go out of his way to point out that he’s underworked. And he’s on call a lot of the time, so he has a flexable schedule. He picked the job in part for the freedom it gave him to pursue his hobby.
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> Plus, presumably we only look in on his life when he’s pursing a difficult kill. I imagine he still spends most of his days infront of a microscope, we just never see it because the episodes take place during the “exciting” parts of Dexter’s life.
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> Yea, Dexter is basically magic when it comes to transporting bodies without anyone noticing, and with not showing up on security cameras as well. They get a little lazier with this every season, and this last season it was pretty ridiculous. He moved Gellars body out of the Church while there was an active police search in the area, and then moved Travis out of a skyscraper in downtown Miami at mid-day. And of course manages to manhandle a rather obese corpse up to the top of a grain silo with only his imaginary brother to help him.

or as I tell my wife “Shhhhhhhhhhh! don’t wrestle with the details!”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/55 "2011-12-21T01:51:22Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> How does he haul these bodies around with no one noticing?

He’s dexterous… but, yeah, the “off-camera magic” was excessive in this season, and not just from Dexter himself. Travis managed quite a bit of it, too.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/56 "2011-12-21T01:56:49Z")

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As an afterthought, the cop who shows up (alone? - but, whatever) on the roof has a rifle with a scope, which is not especially useful if Travis shows up there, too… so, was the plan for him to use the scope to monitor the rooftops of nearby buildings? And were there other cops on those buildings doing the same? Would it not be reasonable for the cops to maintain visual contact on each other where possible? Is the building Travis chose particularly isolated? Is so, why did the unlucky cop need a scoped rifle? If not, how did all the activity on the roof go unnoticed?

And do a lot of Miami skyscrapers have elevators that anybody can casually take to the roof?

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/57 "2011-12-21T02:46:47Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> or as I tell my wife “Shhhhhhhhhhh! don’t wrestle with the details!”

If you’re wondering how he escapes notice or other Dexter facts,

just repeat to yourself “it’s just Showtime, I should really just relax.”

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/58 "2011-12-21T03:04:37Z")

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The wife says I need to suspend reality while watching Dexter.

The one that really got me this season was the logistics of one man handling four horses, mounting a dead body on one, releasing said horses and getting all of them to parade nicely down the street.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/59 "2011-12-21T03:48:14Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> Excellent ending.  
> My WAG is that Dexter will convince Deb this was a one-time revenge, due to his son being almost killed and Deb will believe him and help cover it up. The serial killer aspect will not be revealed.

The problem with that is that Deb’s not stupid and it’s blindingly obvious that it wasn’t a spur of the moment killing. If he’d just stabbed him, then she could believe he’d done it just this once. But all the evidence of planning? He’s supposed to convince her that he’d come up with the whole method in the short time since Harrison was kidnapped? No.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-12-18-this-is-the-way-the-world-ends/606704/60 "2011-12-21T05:51:26Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> He’s supposed to convince her that he’d come up with the whole method in the short time since Harrison was kidnapped? No.

Does anyone other than Dexter even \*know \*that Travis was planning on killing Harrison? The cops who found the alter thought it was for the dead cop on the rooftop. So he really doesn’t even have that excuse.

What I would \*like \*to happen is for Dexter to reveal everything to Debra and have the next season dealing with her reaction to that and how Dexter handles having her know about him, however I bet they’re gonna have some copout in the first episode where Deb thinks this was a one time thing.

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