# Dexter: Final Season On Showtime (SPOILERS!)

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**Created:** [July 1, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355 "2013-07-01T15:34:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jormungandr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jormungandr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jormungandr)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/81 "2013-08-04T04:12:34Z")

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Well, Time Warner pullled Showtime (as well as CBS affiliates) here, New York and Dallas. :mad: Just checked Showtime’a website and the last episode they post online was the season 8 premiere. I guess I’m stuck with review blogs.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/82 "2013-08-04T04:17:38Z")

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> [@Jormungandr](#):
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> Well, Time Warner pullled Showtime (as well as CBS affiliates) here, New York and Dallas. :mad: Just checked Showtime’a website and the last episode they post online was the season 8 premiere. I guess I’m stuck with review blogs.

got us here in ky as well -

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/83 "2013-08-04T14:58:16Z")

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I’m tired of a lot of Time Warner’s crap and am looking into going back to DirecTV. I’m not under contract, and I’ve had to return two of TWC’s boxes in the last 6mos because they weren’t working properly. As it is, this third box that we’ve had a week keeps blocking us from the HBO we pay for–we have to call and use the automated system to have a refreshed signal sent to our box.

I had no complaints those years I had DTV, so this is one more reason to look into switching back. It’s a hassle, but so is returning defective boxes and having to call every time I want to watch HBO.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/84 "2013-08-04T16:49:13Z")

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I hear in tonight’s episode, Dexter kills the CEO of Time Warner.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/85 "2013-08-04T19:37:50Z")

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BTW If you watch Dexter and read Entertainment Weekly, their “What to Watch” coverage of Next Week’s Dexter spoils the end completely of this week’s Dexter. Thanks EW. Avoid it if you don’t want to be spoiled.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/86 "2013-08-04T19:44:59Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> BTW If you watch Dexter and read Entertainment Weekly, their “What to Watch” coverage of Next Week’s Dexter spoils the end completely of this week’s Dexter. Thanks EW. Avoid it if you don’t want to be spoiled.

They do that almost every week. I’ve stopped reading their What to Watch bits for shows I _actually want_ to watch because of it. It doesn’t make any sense, they \*know \*people get their magazine before the episode previous to the one they are writing about even airs.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/87 "2013-08-04T20:21:50Z")

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> [@Critical1](#):
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> I like Dexter, I hate essentially every other story line in this show. How much better would this show be if you just edited out all non Dex related crap?

It seems a lot of recent dramas have this problem (True Blood is another (extreme) example). The first season or two establishes a bunch of secondary cast members to flesh out the main story. But then it comes time to right the third or fourth season, and instead of just ditching the secondary cast members, or find a way to keep them tied into the main plot, they all get their own pointless, time-wasting plotlines that don’t go anywhere.

I guess its sort of nice that the show-runners want to help the actors they’re working with get larger parts instead of kicking them to the curb, but it really hurts the writing trying to shoehorn them in. Angel, Quinn and Masuka mind as well be in their own TV show this season.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/88 "2013-08-04T21:24:29Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I guess its sort of nice that the show-runners want to help the actors they’re working with get larger parts instead of kicking them to the curb, but it really hurts the writing trying to shoehorn them in. Angel, Quinn and Masuka mind as well be in their own TV show this season.

Maybe next season. 😉  
[http://tv.yahoo.com/news/showtime-executive-hints-dexter-spinoff-003902219.html](http://tv.yahoo.com/news/showtime-executive-hints-dexter-spinoff-003902219.html)

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/89 "2013-08-05T15:50:59Z")

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Not liking the idea of Dexter being a mentor again…and if the “intern” winds up killing Dexter and “taking over”…I will be quite pissed at that ending.

Hopefully they won’t do anything that stupid and sophomoric.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/90 "2013-08-05T16:30:16Z")

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Zach is clearly too old to begin his Dexter-Jedi training.

I wonder if Dexter will offer up Hannah to feed his need. She fits the code and Dexter may be hesitant to do it.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/91 "2013-08-05T19:04:24Z")

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Most long running shows seem to get a second wind in their final season and go out with a bang and a few limp to the finish line. This is shaping up to a limp. It seems like the creators of the show have bought into the idea that Dexter is a super hero. No, he’s a murderer and a psychopath who happens to have been pushed into a direction where he is aimed at bad people (mostly).

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**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/92 "2013-08-06T15:43:52Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Most long running shows seem to get a second wind in their final season and go out with a bang and a few limp to the finish line. This is shaping up to a limp. It seems like the creators of the show have bought into the idea that Dexter is a super hero. No, he’s a murderer and a psychopath who happens to have been pushed into a direction where he is aimed at bad people (mostly).

For myself, I don’t think they’ve bought into any consistent narrative about Dexter. I was hoping this season would build toward something, but it seems now like they just putter along in each episode until they drop a twist in the final 2 minutes. Story lines that span multiple episodes just seem to peter out.

For my money, Dr Vogel’s character has been handled pretty poorly by the writing team. That’s not a criticism of Charlotte Rampling, but her character doesn’t really provide an effective counterweight to Dexter. We already have Harry and those insipid voice-overs that allow us into Dexter’s mind–what, exactly, does the Vogel character bring to the season that those tools don’t? I was really hoping she would force Dexter to confront what he is a little more clearly, but the only time that happened was when he read her patient files (inexplicably on the Brain Surgeon’s computer). Otherwise she’s served little purpose other than as a sounding board or a woman-in-danger.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/93 "2013-08-08T22:03:05Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> Zach is clearly too old to begin his Dexter-Jedi training.

There’s that, plus the fact that he already killed an innocent. But the biggest problem is that the police already know he’s a killer.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/94 "2013-08-08T23:10:48Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> There’s that, plus the fact that he already killed an innocent. But the biggest problem is that the police already know he’s a killer.

Quinn knows he’s a killer. If something happens to Quinn…  
Zach already has a high ranking policeman actively covering for him.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/95 "2013-08-09T00:12:10Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> Quinn knows he’s a killer. If something happens to Quinn…  
> Zach already has a high ranking policeman actively covering for him.

Several of them know, including Battista and the captain. Quinn is the only one who is actively investigating it, though, and he’s doing it off the books to appease the captain.

I didn’t get the impression that the captain was covering; more that he wanted definitive proof before formally investigating.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/96 "2013-08-19T15:33:55Z")

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Okay, so I assumed the montage at the end was saying that Dr. Vogol killed what’s his name but the internet seems to think otherwise. Was I misreading that scene?

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/97 "2013-08-19T15:53:49Z")

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Someone please explain how Dexter’s murdered neighbor ended up with Zach’s blood under her finger nails?

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/98 "2013-08-20T07:11:48Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Okay, so I assumed the montage at the end was saying that Dr. Vogol killed what’s his name but the internet seems to think otherwise. Was I misreading that scene?

That was definitely the impression I had at the moment… but now thinking about it, the Brain Surgeon had sent the brain part to Vogel. That’s why she was examining it.

> [@Laggard](#):
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> Someone please explain how Dexter’s murdered neighbor ended up with Zach’s blood under her finger nails?

Quinn is trying to frame Zach was my thought.  
Also perhaps the Brain Surgeon was trying to frame Zach to expose Dexter.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/99 "2013-08-20T14:26:25Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Okay, so I assumed the montage at the end was saying that Dr. Vogol killed what’s his name but the internet seems to think otherwise. Was I misreading that scene?

The show is saying that the Brain Surgeon is still out there and sent Dr. Vogel the piece of brain. Though my first thought was also that the twist will be that Dr. Vogel will end up being the killer. (Maybe it was because of watching NBC’s **Hannibal** , but that dinner scene made me wonder if Dr. Vogel had added any “special” meats to the meal. Brain perhaps?)

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-final-season-on-showtime-spoilers/662355/100 "2013-08-20T14:36:13Z")

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Vogel drove Zack home so we’re led to believe she’s the killer. I’m more concerned with how they’re going to end this whole thing with only a few episodes left.  
EDIT : I don’t think anyone sent Vogel the piece of brain because it all happened on the same night. She drove Zack home, but somehow the killer was able to kill Zack at Dex’s apartment, then drive to Vogel’s and leave the brain sample?

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