# Dexter Season 4 open spoilers for aired episodes \[changed title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318 "2009-10-19T12:55:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/201 "2009-11-25T18:26:34Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I’m not following either, about him killing in fours. The fourth family member is alive, so there’s no fourth death to replicate. > > The coffin – well, it does look like he’s made them before, but I believed him when he said it was for himself. Except that if he’d succeeded in killing himself, his family would have buried him without ever knowing about the coffin. Unless he left a note. > > Yeah, I’m lost too. I’d say the fourth one is symbolically for himself. He’s probably been killing boys because he should have died with the rest of his family. This time he had come home to do his cycle because he actually planned on killing himself. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/202 "2009-11-25T18:34:31Z")
> [@Darkhold](#): > > I’d say the fourth one is symbolically for himself. He’s probably been killing boys because he should have died with the rest of his family. This time he had come home to do his cycle because he actually planned on killing himself. That’s brilliant. I like it. **kingpengvin** , that’s brilliant too, about Dex not getting upset about Rita and Elliot. And even though Matsuko saw the kiss, I don’t see him telling Dex about it. I think Rita will tell him. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/203 "2009-11-25T19:55:20Z")
Best Thanksgiving episode of a series ever. The antithesis of a “very special” episode with everyone getting all mushy. Speaking of mushy, I loved Dexter going all cave man on Trinity. Swoon. So does Trinity bury his victims alive or just bury them? I don’t buy that the coffin in the garage was for Trinity. Unless he left a suicide note that said, “I’ve made a lovely coffin for myself in garage” how would the family ever know it was there before he was buried? No, I think he was headed to do #4 when Dexter intervened (by insisting he accompany him on his trip) and Trinity was just using that as a cover-up. Totally didn’t see the twist at the end, even though I’d seen the preview. I have to say that I was skeptical when Deb was connecting the dots and revealed the body counts ("40 in July, etc.). I can buy that a serial killer could get away with committing rather generic murders all over the country without someone connecting the dots. But the bathtub murders? That’s a pretty memorable way for someone to die and I doubt he could have killed that many women without someone saying, “Hey, wasn’t there a gal in Minneapolis that died with a huge gash to her thigh in a bathtub, too?” And it was also bogus that the DNA sweep caught umpteen rapists, etc. No judge in the U.S. would allow a DNA sweep of that magnitude! I, too, think that they may wrap up this season without resolving Trinity. As others have said, it’s going to be tough for Dexter to take him out now that he’s revealed himself to the family. And we’ve already suspected that the hammer and Lundy’s notes are going to lead Deb to suspect Dexter. The fact that the DexShed was broken into only cements the fact that his gig may be up. So I’m thinking that next season they’ll explore Deb’s revelation and the final season will be Dexter’s decision to hang up his cape and live a normal life. BTW, anyone watch the special episodes on SHO On Demand? MCH on MCH was cute. (He used to sell knives door to door. :)) And the webisode was interesting though I confess I don’t remember the storyline about his first kill – the Marine sharpshooter targeting children. Was that in episode 1? (I have a short memory.) ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/204 "2009-11-25T20:19:41Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I doubt he could have killed that many women without someone saying, “Hey, wasn’t there a gal in Minneapolis that died with a huge gash to her thigh in a bathtub, too?” Would they though? Unless it became some huge story that hit the national news, would a police force in another state even \*know \*about a similar crime elsewhere? Especially since the bathtub murders were staged as a suicide? And I agree, I don’t think the coffin was meant for Trinity. That’s only what he told Dexter, because obviously he can’t come right out and say “Oh, that’s for this guy I’m going to kill & bury somewhere.” There’s some part of that story we haven’t been made aware of yet. ---
**Author:** ![Hallucinex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hallucinex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hallucinex)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/205 "2009-11-26T09:50:07Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Except that if he’d succeeded in killing himself, his family would have buried him without ever knowing about the coffin. Unless he left a note. Was wondering that myself - when a family member dies, is the rest of the family supposed to poke around in the garage just on the off chance there’s a coffin lying about they can use? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/206 "2009-11-26T12:27:47Z")
> [@Hallucinex](#): > > Was wondering that myself - when a family member dies, is the rest of the family supposed to poke around in the garage just on the off chance there’s a coffin lying about they can use? …and what was he supposed to say to Dexter when he pulled up the sheet? “Oh that’s for somebody I’m going to kill soon.” I’m still not seeing where a fourth victim fits in…especially if the coffin was for himself. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/207 "2009-11-28T07:13:30Z")
“Hi Dad”? Tell me she didn’t say that! TELL ME SHE DIDN’T JUST SAY THAT! Man, I did NOT see that coming. I’ve never been glad not to have seen previews of an episode before. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/208 "2009-11-29T10:26:29Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > “Hi Dad”? Tell me she didn’t say that! TELL ME SHE DIDN’T JUST SAY THAT! > > Man, I did NOT see that coming. I’ve never been glad not to have seen previews of an episode before. That’s just it, though. The previews showed her opening the door and him being there, but not the “Hi Dad” part. So as the episode starts winding down, those of us who watched the preview were silently cursing the ad monkeys who totally ruined the big surprise ending. Then she says those two little words, and our minds were far more blown than if we never saw the preview at all. It was a perfect blind-side anti-spoiler preview. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/209 "2009-11-29T11:59:43Z")
Eh, it still would’ve ruined the scene for me, so I’m glad I missed that preview. I would’ve been thinking “yep, here it is” and getting irritated when they revealed it, so I would’ve been more pissed than shocked, even with the reverse tease thing going on. I’ve never seen a network preview that actually enhanced the experience for me. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/210 "2009-11-29T13:11:57Z")
Each to his own. That one did for me. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/211 "2009-11-29T13:15:23Z")
I’m not sure how. Had you not seen the preview, you still would’ve gone through the same “hey’s going to kill her… wait, no” reaction, right? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/212 "2009-11-29T13:19:09Z")
I watched the entire episode with the foreknowledge of her impending death. It shaded the episode in a way that I’m guessing was different from your experience. You thought she would die for what, 1 second? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/213 "2009-11-29T13:26:44Z")
I guess so. I probably would’ve been rooting for her to die. I’m not sure if it was necesarily a superior experience to watch with that in mind - it’s not as if the person who wrote the show had intended it that way, since it’s the ad folks making up the previews with no regard with how it will affect the story. Anyway, I’m not saying preview avoidance was for everyone, but I appreciate that people have spoiler boxed the stuff so that I can remain preview-free. ---
**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/214 "2009-11-29T15:03:23Z")
Anyone think it’s possible that the younger daughter is the sister’s kid by her dad? I was watching it the other day, the mother’s preference for the son (she gives thanks for the son, but forgets the daughter) and her throwing the girl at Dexter makes me think she might not have a mother/daughter connection. Plus, Trinity calls her Vera, wondering if he purposely “made” this version of his dead sister (I have a really sick mind, so I automatically jump to these kinds of conclusions LOL). ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/215 "2009-11-29T18:31:33Z")
> [@LVBoPeep](#): > > Anyone think it’s possible that the younger daughter is the sister’s kid by her dad? Spell this out for me. Rebecca is dead Vera’s child, with Arthur as the father? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/216 "2009-11-29T20:34:37Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Spell this out for me. Rebecca is dead Vera’s child, with Arthur as the father? 😕 I think he meant Rebecca being Christine’s child via Arthur. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/217 "2009-11-29T20:40:18Z")
> [@Justin\_Credible](#): > > I think he meant Rebecca being Christine’s child via Arthur. Oh. Ew. That’d be interesting. Ew. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/218 "2009-11-29T20:59:32Z")
Or maybe what was meant was sister Vera was molested by Arther’s abusive father resulting in a pregnancy and birth of Rebecca before Vera died in the shower. Christine called Arthur her dad, which should make her Rebecca’s sister, but I don’t think she is the aforementioned “sister”. ---
**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/219 "2009-11-30T00:09:29Z")
> [@Justin\_Credible](#): > > I think he meant Rebecca being Christine’s child via Arthur. Yes, that is what I meant- it would explain the mother’s slip up at dinner and also might be why Christine was spending Turkey Day alone. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318/220 "2009-11-30T00:38:42Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > Or maybe what was meant was sister Vera was molested by Arther’s abusive father resulting in a pregnancy and birth of Rebecca before Vera died in the shower. Does that fit the timeline? I don’t recall how long it’s been since Vera died. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dexter-season-4-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes-changed-title/514318.md?page=12)