# Dey looking for this homie, I got some tips for him **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378 "2021-01-12T22:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/1 "2021-01-12T22:58:22Z")
They lookin this guy: [News Headlines | Today's UK & World News | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9139059/FBI-arrests-New-York-man-connection-Capitol-riots.html) my advice to him is: DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS DO NOT DENY, DO NOT ADMIT, DO NOT TALK AT ALL. GET A LaWYER DO NOT SAY: " I WASN’T THERE " DO NOT SAY: “i WAS THERE, BUT THAT WASN’T ME.” DO NOT SAY, “I DIDN’T MEAN TO HIT HIM!” DO NOT SAY, “i GOT CRAZY, I WAS JUST THROWING SHIT, I WASN’T THINKING” JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. you work out to taylor swift? yes sir, i have that song on loop while i be doing my Bowflex got the Bowflex Xtreme used on Craigslist JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS DO NOT SAY, “I DIDN’T MEAN TO HIT HIM” JUST SHUT UP!!! ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/2 "2021-01-12T23:03:34Z")
Oh wow. For anyone reluctant to read the Daily Mail - there is clear video of the guy deliberately aiming and throwing a fire extinguisher at a group of cops. That is deliberate and premeditated, assuming that’s Sicknick it hits that’s unquestionably murder right there caught on tape. If not it’s attempted murder. ---
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/3 "2021-01-12T23:13:04Z")
manslaughter??? Or murder? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/4 "2021-01-12T23:13:55Z")
I see no way that is not murder. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/5 "2021-01-12T23:18:13Z")
His cap says CFD. Does that mean the motherfucker who killed a cop with a fire extinguisher is a fucking fire fighter? ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/6 "2021-01-12T23:23:46Z")
I hope it means he’s just a wanna be. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/7 "2021-01-13T00:47:44Z")
What would you call it if one’s actions during the commission of a felony resulted in the death of another person? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/8 "2021-01-13T00:50:51Z")
Murder and manslaughter have specific definitions that vary by jurisdiction. As well exactly how accessories and accomplices figure into it vary. Morally any / every of the seditious traitors belong swinging at the end of a rope. Soon. Which legal category throwing a fire extinguisher at a policeman falls into is heavily fact-dependent and law-dependent. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/9 "2021-01-13T00:55:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What would you call it if one’s actions during the commission of a felony resulted in the death of another person? You’ll have to say what you mean, I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. I don’t see the relevance of felony murder here, unless you’re talking about other participants. For the thrower, this is straight up murder. I assume you don’t disagree that deliberately aiming and throwing a fire extinguisher at someone and killing them is murder? ---
**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/10 "2021-01-13T01:10:26Z")
Perhaps he was just checking to see if the fire extinguisher was in working order, by god he was protecting the people!!! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/11 "2021-01-13T02:17:52Z")
I was referring to the assertion that it could be manslaughter. IMNLO, the traitors were all committing a felony (treason) and they are all responsible (felony murder) for the death of the police officer. ---
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/12 "2021-01-13T03:07:55Z")
We don’t know that this man was aiming for the officer----he could have been a hooligan just throwing heavy objects (like looters going ‘wild’.) If he’s tried, depending on the political climate, he may end up being convicted of murder but that would be unfortuante because it’s not really provable. But it’s clearly at least manslaughter, wihtout intent to kill. ADVICE TO THIS: DO NOT TALK TO THE FBI NARCS. JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/13 "2021-01-13T03:18:39Z")
So why the dialect usage (e.g., “dey looking”) in the topic title and the OP? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/14 "2021-01-13T03:19:58Z")
FBI narcs? Are you high, or just fucking stupid? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/16 "2021-01-13T03:54:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > FBI narcs? Are you high, or just fucking stupid? And, OP, if it happens to be both, you can say so. We won’t narc you out. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/17 "2021-01-13T04:18:29Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > That is deliberate and premeditated, assuming that’s Sicknick it hits that’s unquestionably murder right there caught on tape. It appears that’s not the case: [https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533816-senator-releases-photos-of-man-wanted-in-connection-with-capitol-riot](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533816-senator-releases-photos-of-man-wanted-in-connection-with-capitol-riot) > But police later disputed Cassidy’s characterization, telling The Hill that the “individual in the photo is a person of interest for another incident. The U.S. Capitol Police and FBI are looking for any information about the individual and his activities on January 6, 2021.” > > Cassidy’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. > > One of the photos shared by Cassidy shows a man with a beard in the mob of Trump supporters at the Capitol. In the photo, he is wearing a blue hat with the letters “CFD” on it and a gray and black plaid shirt. The other shows a man wielding a red object. Cassidy’s tweet has been deleted, but clearly they’re referring to the same guy with the CFD hat. It’s possible it’s the same guy, but it seems fairly certain that the officer that was struck here was not Sicknick. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/18 "2021-01-13T04:34:59Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > It’s possible it’s the same guy, but it seems fairly certain that the officer that was struck here was not Sicknick. So he just gets assaulting a police officer while rioting. What’s the sentence for that? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/19 "2021-01-13T04:39:10Z")
Hopefully a lot. Especially since a fire extinguisher clearly counts as a deadly weapon. Fortunately, I don’t think we’ll have to wait too long to find out the identity of CFD man. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/20 "2021-01-13T04:43:52Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So he just gets assaulting a police officer while rioting. Assuming the facts are (a) somebody else did actually succeed in killing Officer Sicknick in a separate incident with a fire extinguisher; (b) the thrower in this video was deliberately aiming a similarly heavy object and throwing it at cops. Doesn’t it follow that this thrower was deliberately doing something that _could_ easily and forseeably have killed these cops? A deadly weapon, as @Dr.Strangelove says. Isn’t there an _attempted_ murder charge here? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378/21 "2021-01-13T04:57:36Z")
My advice to you is to shut the fuck up and then go eat a mountain of shit, goat fucker. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dey-looking-for-this-homie-i-got-some-tips-for-him/930378.md?page=2)