# Dharun Ravi gets.... 30 DAYS? Oh. Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639 "2012-05-21T18:43:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/21 "2012-05-21T19:48:36Z")
Did Rutgers kick him out? Are there any consequences besides $11,000 restitution and thirty days in jail? ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/22 "2012-05-21T19:51:57Z")
My feelings [in the MPSIMS thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15086516&postcount=100). I changed Dharun to [Ravi] in my quote block because I thought Ravi was his first name and he doesn’t deserve to be addressed by his first name by me. > [@Secretly recording the gay roommate - an update - Guilty verdict](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secretly-recording-the-gay-roommate-an-update-guilty-verdict/615988/100): > > [Ravi] is a repugnant person. He reeks of being the popular preppy kid in school who made friends easily and thrived on belittling others. Thirty days in prison isn’t easy, but I fully believe he should’ve gotten a few years, given that Clementi committed suicide because of him (yes, I know there’s no provable connection, but I’m calling a spade a spade here). Clementi had only just started college, and only three weeks into it he was permanently labeled because of the thoughtless and bigoted actions of his roommate. > > In the [New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/nyregion/rutgers-spying-defendant-sentenced-to-30-days-in-jail.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2) article about the scentencing, the judge made note of how [Ravi] showed no remorse throughout the entire process. His mother requested light sentencing because is life is just _soooooo_ hard now. He’s had to take online classes because of this. Online classes! > > I hope [Ravi] learns a few hard lessons in the slammer. If he had a tough time dealing with a gay roommate before, then it’s probably going to be 30 long, sleepless nights for him. > > Little punk. _spit_ ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/23 "2012-05-21T19:55:19Z")
Easy. He’s a convicted felon. Deport him. **Miller** , the two links are fairly easy to understand. I’m not getting into a pissing match with a Moderator. So, poke away to your heart’s delight, for I can promise you I’m not rising to the bait. You want to come in here without your Mod Hat on, I’ll be delighted to discuss why those two links work well together. **Carnivorousplant** , [it seems he withdrew](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/29/dharun-ravi-and-molly-wei_n_775808.html). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/24 "2012-05-21T19:56:10Z")
> [@Agent Foxtrot](#): > > I hope [Ravi] learns a few hard lessons in the slammer. If he had a tough time dealing with a gay roommate before, then it’s probably going to be 30 long, sleepless nights for him. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/25 "2012-05-21T19:59:35Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Cool. I’m sorry, I’m not sure if you’re mocking me or agreeing with my statement. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/26 "2012-05-21T20:00:23Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > I’m sorry, I’m not sure if you’re mocking me or agreeing with my statement. 😕 I’m agreeing with your statement, Sir. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/27 "2012-05-21T20:06:58Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Yes **Sailboat** , and I can shoot you today and if you die 50 years from now from the same injury I can later be prosecuted by murder. What if I shoot you today and a year from now you commit suicide (let’s even stipulate that it’s because of injuries the shooting inflicted). Should you be prosecuted and sentence increased because of the suicide? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/28 "2012-05-21T20:30:53Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > **Miller** , the two links are fairly easy to understand. I’m not getting into a pissing match with a Moderator. So, poke away to your heart’s delight, for I can promise you I’m not rising to the bait. You want to come in here without your Mod Hat on, I’ll be delighted to discuss why those two links work well together. Individually, the two links are easy enough to understand. What I’m not getting is how they relate to each other, to the story in the OP, or to the post to which you were responding. I’m also not entirely clear on what you think I’m going to do to you if you respond to me, or what you think it means for a mod to have their “mod hat” on - I haven’t posted anything here with my “hat” on, so I’m not sure what behavior you want to see from me before you’ll respond. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/29 "2012-05-21T20:33:17Z")
Plus three years of probation. I’m guessing he had no prior trouble with the law. So, low but about what I would expect. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/30 "2012-05-21T20:43:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’m also not entirely clear on what you think I’m going to do to you if you respond to me, or what you think it means for a mod to have their “mod hat” on - I haven’t posted anything here with my “hat” on, so I’m not sure what behavior you want to see from me before you’ll respond. [He’s kind of a paranoid retard on this issue](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13706911&postcount=27). Either that, or you personally scare him deeply.\* \*Lord knows, I live in mortal fear of you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/31 "2012-05-21T20:46:12Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > [Ravi] is a repugnant person. He reeks of being the popular preppy kid in school who made friends easily and thrived on belittling others. Thirty days in prison isn’t easy, but I fully believe he should’ve gotten a few years, given that Clementi committed suicide because of him (yes, I know there’s no provable connection, but I’m calling a spade a spade here). Clementi had only just started college, and only three weeks into it he was permanently labeled because of the thoughtless and bigoted actions of his roommate. > > In the New York Times article about the scentencing, the judge made note of how [Ravi] showed no remorse throughout the entire process. His mother requested light sentencing because is life is just soooooo hard now. He’s had to take online classes because of this. Online classes! > > I hope [Ravi] learns a few hard lessons in the slammer. If he had a tough time dealing with a gay roommate before, then it’s probably going to be 30 long, sleepless nights for him. > > Little punk. _spit_ Yeah, throw him in jail for a decade because he reminds you of the popular kids in high school who made friends easily! Sounds like justice to me! ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/32 "2012-05-21T21:05:59Z")
Actually, this refers quite neatly back to my link. It isn’t because he was popular at Rutgers. It was because he was loathesome in his behavior towards his roommate. Just as Mitt Romney was loathesome in his behavior towards his classmate ( hence the connection ). He should be deported. India has a rich legacy of criminalization of homosexuals. See the second link in my post. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/33 "2012-05-21T21:08:06Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > I hope [Ravi] learns a few hard lessons in the slammer. If he had a tough time dealing with a gay roommate before, then it’s probably going to be 30 long, sleepless nights for him. > > Little punk. _spit_ With a sentence like that he’s going to minimal facility, surrounded by other inmates with relatively short sentences as well that don’t want to do anything wrong that will lengthen their sentence, they just want to do their time and get out. So I don’t think he’s going to have that much of a problem. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/34 "2012-05-21T21:12:01Z")
> [@Absolute](#): > > Yeah, throw him in jail for a decade because he reminds you of the popular kids in high school who made friends easily! Sounds like justice to me! If the reason they remind you of them is because they do the same immoral acts, then, yes, that is how it works. A harsher sentence provides a deterrent to others. I don’t think anyone thinks this guy will do this stuff again after all that’s happened to him. The question is, will a 30 day sentence make others think it’s no longer worth it? I guess we’ll see. EDIT: And I would prefer him deported, too, as long as we’re going to keep having stupid immigration policy. Let someone who can handle not being a bigot come in. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/35 "2012-05-21T21:53:35Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Actually, this refers quite neatly back to my link. It isn’t because he was popular at Rutgers. > > It was because he was loathesome in his behavior towards his roommate. Just as Mitt Romney was loathesome in his behavior towards his classmate ( hence the connection ). > > He should be deported. India has a rich legacy of criminalization of homosexuals. See the second link in my post. So, you’re saying we should deport Mitt Romney? I guess I can’t really argue with that. > [@Fenris](#): > > [He’s kind of a paranoid retard on this issue](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13706911&postcount=27). Either that, or you personally scare him deeply.\* > > \*Lord knows, I live in mortal fear of you. 😛 I like you, **Fenris**. That’s why I’m going to kill you last. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/36 "2012-05-21T22:00:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If the reason they remind you of them is because they do the same immoral acts, then, yes, that is how it works. A harsher sentence provides a deterrent to others. I don’t think anyone thinks this guy will do this stuff again after all that’s happened to him. The question is, will a 30 day sentence make others think it’s no longer worth it? > > I guess we’ll see. > . Really? Let’s say you’re thinking of video taping your roommate. A sleezy thing to do, right? And you hear about his case in scenario A: Roommate kills himself, entire nation hates you, you get 30 days in jail, restitution order, and deported. Scenario B: Roommate kills himself, entire nation hates you, you get 10 years in jail, restitution order, and deported. If you stop long enough to consider \*\*\*either \*\*\*alternative, you’re not going to do this stupid thing. 30 days or 10 years isn’t the issue. Do you really think there’s someone out there who would say, “you know, that sounds like a giggle, and it would only cost me 30 days in jail, so what the hell?” ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/37 "2012-05-21T22:13:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Really? Let’s say you’re thinking of video taping your roommate. A sleezy thing to do, right? And you hear about his case in scenario A: Roommate kills himself, entire nation hates you, you get 30 days in jail, restitution order, and deported. Scenario B: Roommate kills himself, entire nation hates you, you get 10 years in jail, restitution order, and deported. If you stop long enough to consider \*\*\*either \*\*\*alternative, you’re not going to do this stupid thing. 30 days or 10 years isn’t the issue. Do you really think there’s someone out there who would say, “you know, that sounds like a giggle, and it would only cost me 30 days in jail, so what the hell?” You’re talking to someone who won’t leave his mommy’s basement and doesn’t have any idea of normal social interaction–you’d have better luck getting one of those old ELIZA programs to understand that the entire country hating you is…y’know…bad. For BigTard, the “entire nation hates you” means "someone on the internet said something bad. It’s really not worth trying to explain it to him. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/38 "2012-05-21T22:13:38Z")
Depends on whether the guy is a sociopath or not. Maybe he’ll come out exclaiming it “was totally worth it!” and join the Phelps clan. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/39 "2012-05-21T22:32:10Z")
> [@](#): > > I like you, **Fenris**. That’s why I’m going to kill you last. No, no, no. Don’t you remember ANYTHING from the Mod instructions? We eat the favored ones first, so they don’t have to watch the others being devoured. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dharun-ravi-gets-30-days-oh-really/622639/40 "2012-05-21T22:56:08Z")
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