# Dick Cheney a Sartorial Embarrassment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2005, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243 "2005-01-29T04:33:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/221 "2005-02-01T20:53:13Z")
**Five pages** on Dick Cheney’s wardrobe. The mind reels. What I really want to know is what he’s checking out of Blockbuster Video. Can someone do an FOI request? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/222 "2005-02-01T21:02:14Z")
**Jackmannii:** _Five pages on Dick Cheney’s wardrobe. The mind reels._ Well, actually, there were about three posts poking mild fun at Cheney’s choice of outfit before **Martin Hyde** showed up with his humorless hat on and scolded: > [@Martin Hyde](#): > > It’s a serious health risk for him to be out in that cold in just an overcoat like the rest of them were wearing. […] > This is a lame, weak ass rant, period. I don’t quite understand why some conservatives in this thread have acted as though it’s the leftists who are obsessing about this subject. IMO **gobear** was the only one who really went over the top in interpreting this as a sign of Republican Evil ™, and even he more or less retracted. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/223 "2005-02-01T22:33:10Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I don’t quite understand why some conservatives in this thread have acted as though it’s the leftists who are obsessing about this subject. I have no idea why they are either. Nor do I comprehend why the other side is obsessing about observations that they are obsessing about the matter. I was merely expressing dispassionate non-partisan disbelief. I now flee to higher ground before I can be brutalized by the hive mind. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/224 "2005-02-01T22:35:28Z")
**Jackmannii:** _I was merely expressing dispassionate non-partisan disbelief._ Can’t fool us. You were **obsessing** about dispassionate non-partisan disbelief! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/225 "2005-02-02T00:29:29Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I don’t quite understand why some conservatives in this thread have acted as though it’s the leftists who are obsessing about this subject. It’s seems like it’s very, very hard for many of them to simply acknowledge that Cheney did something slightly wrong. There’s less cognitive dissonance in accusing the people pointing out this _faux paux_ of obsessive behavior and being loony lefties looking for anything, no matter how minor, to crucify Cheney or Bush with. It fits their world view much better. ---
**Author:** ![Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Age_Quod_Agis)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/226 "2005-02-02T00:44:48Z")
And vice versa, **Revtim**. “It’s seems like it’s very, very hard for many of them to simply acknowledge that Cheney did [not do] something [terrib]ly wrong. There’s less cognitive dissonance in accusing the people [refusing to acknowledge that there may have been valid reasons for] this faux paux of obsessive behavior and being [sycophantic idiots incapable of seeing the horrible, soul-tearingly evil of] Cheney or Bush . It fits their world view much better.” ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/227 "2005-02-02T01:00:45Z")
Here’s what Peggy Post, spokesperson for the Emily Post Institute, had to say about the whole matter in today’s Chicago Sun-Times: Sun-Times: It is important that people dress respectfully and appropriately for serious occasions. Peggy Post: “Yes.” ST: The fashion writer of the Washington Post has criticized Vice President Cheney for wearing a parka at Auschwitz, and many others are joining in. PP: “I know.” ST: Was Cheney being disrespectful and inappropriate? PP: "He was wearing a business suit beneath the parka. It was cold and it was snowing. He has a heart condition. **There was nothing disrespectful or inappropriate in his wearing a parka and a knit cap, under such conditions."** ST: Thank you. PP: “One other thing.” ST: Yes? PP: **"It shouldn’t be that big a deal."** Bolding mine. There you have it from an etiquette expert. In summary, Mr. Cheney wearing a parka and cap wasn’t disrespectful or inappropriate, and (IMHO) some of you are making too big of a deal out of it. Unless you think that Peggy Post is part of the fascist cabal, too. :rolleyes: [http://www.suntimes.com/output/quicktakes/cst-nws-qt01.html](http://www.suntimes.com/output/quicktakes/cst-nws-qt01.html) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/228 "2005-02-02T01:21:45Z")
Geez **milroyj** , why are you obsessing over this? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/229 "2005-02-02T01:35:17Z")
> [@Age Quod Agis](#): > > And vice versa, **Revtim**. > > “It’s seems like it’s very, very hard for many of them to simply acknowledge that Cheney did [not do] something [terrib]ly wrong. There’s less cognitive dissonance in accusing the people [refusing to acknowledge that there may have been valid reasons for] this faux paux of obsessive behavior and being [sycophantic idiots incapable of seeing the horrible, soul-tearingly evil of] Cheney or Bush . It fits their world view much better.” Come on, play straight. The one person in this thread to make remarks like that has recanted. Mostly the responses were “wow, how dumb.” “jeez, that’s obnoxious” etc… That people choose to see that as a comment on Cheney doing horrible, terrible, no good, very bad things, well… ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/230 "2005-02-02T01:37:28Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > Unless you think that Peggy Post is part of the fascist cabal, too. :rolleyes: Well this administration _is_ in the habit of paying ‘journalists’ to shill for them. Why _not_ Peggy Post? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/231 "2005-02-02T02:43:01Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > ST: Was Cheney being disrespectful and inappropriate? > PP: "He was wearing a business suit beneath the parka. And thong bikini underwear beneath the business suit. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/232 "2005-02-02T02:55:15Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > And thong bikini underwear beneath the business suit. :eek: I’m thinking more like nipple clips and a butt plug… ---
**Author:** ![Tool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@Tool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tool)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243/233 "2005-02-02T21:27:06Z")
All you lamers give it up. Cheney had an engagement aftterwards to snow blow out a whole street of elderly folks. Busy man that Cheney. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-a-sartorial-embarrassment/287243.md?page=11)