# Dick Cheney endorses Harris

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [September 7, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881 "2024-09-07T01:25:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/1 "2024-09-07T01:25:58Z")

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Didn’t have that on my bingo card. I probably won’t be the first to suggest that Dick invite Donald to go on a hunting trip.

Has anything like this ever happened before, where an actually former Pres/VP has endorsed the opposing party’s candidate? Will GW Bush follow suit?

Also, I look forward to MAGA types arguing seriously that Dick Cheney (_Dick Cheney!!_) is a RINO.

> **[Dick Cheney says he’s voting for Harris in November and Trump ‘can never be...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/politics/dick-cheney-kamala-harris-president/index.html)**
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> Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Friday that he will vote for Democrat Kamala Harris over fellow Republican Donald Trump in the November election, warning that the former president “can never be trusted with power again.”

ETA: Cheney’s wrong when he says that there’s never been a greater threat to the republic than Trump. See: Davis, Jefferson et al., 1861.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/2 "2024-09-07T01:33:05Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Also, I look forward to MAGA types arguing seriously that Dick Cheney (_Dick Cheney!!_) is a RINO.

> **['Irrelevant RINO!' Trump throws fit over Dick Cheney endorsement of Kamala...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-dick-cheney/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump took to his Truth Social platform on Friday evening to rage against former Vice President Dick Cheney, for his historic endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris."Dick Cheney is an irrelevant RINO \[Republican In Name...

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/3 "2024-09-07T01:34:35Z")

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Pence has said he won’t endorse Trump. He should come out and endorse Harris too, but I’m not holding my breath.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/4 "2024-09-07T01:34:49Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Will GW Bush follow suit?

That was my first thought. Would be nice, but GWB seems to prefer to stay out of public life. Still, one can hope that the number of old-school Republicans who recognize the danger that Trump poses continues to grow.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/5 "2024-09-07T01:39:45Z")

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Dick Cheney is Evil Incarnate.  
He only denies Trump because he has no future in a Trump dictatorship.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/6 "2024-09-07T01:41:48Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Dick Cheney is Evil Incarnate.

I don’t disagree. But when Darth Vader tells you you’ve gone too far in embracing the Dark Side, you might view him as a voice of authority.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/7 "2024-09-07T02:02:00Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Dick Cheney is Evil Incarnate.

In many ways, yes, absolutely. But in many ways his contributions to the Project for a New American Century that guided much of Bush’s foreign policy was a coherent if grossly misguided and distorted strategy that sought to expand America’s global hegemony. IOW, in his own sick and deluded way that saw America as having a rightful place at the pinnacle of world power, Dick Cheney was an actual patriot, albeit a very misguided one. For all his faults, Cheney would never cozy up to Putin or Kim Jong Un or sell out America to the Russians, steal top secret documents, or give away national security secrets to Russian agents right in the Oval Office. Indeed, Cheney’s policies to strengthen American global power was the exact opposite of the Orange Moron literally telling Putin that he can do “whatever the hell he wants”.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He only denies Trump because he has no future in a Trump dictatorship.

He denies Trump because he has no future in politics, period, so it takes no great courage to do it. But I believe he’s doing it because, just like Liz Cheney, he genuinely fears for the future of his country.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/8 "2024-09-07T02:28:44Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Also, I look forward to MAGA types arguing seriously that Dick Cheney (_Dick Cheney!!_) is a RINO.

They consider Liz Cheney a RINO. Never you mind that she’s probably with them on most issues, but she didn’t bend the knee to Trump and that’s unacceptable.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/9 "2024-09-07T02:30:41Z")

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RINO and Never TFGer are synonyms to these people.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/10 "2024-09-07T02:38:03Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Dick Cheney is Evil Incarnate.

Both men are evil. But nobody ever accused Cheney of being stupid.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/11 "2024-09-07T02:46:45Z")

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[Harris campaign response:](https://wapo.st/4gfCTg3)

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> “The Vice President is proud to have the support of Vice President Cheney, and deeply respects his courage to put country over party,” Harris campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon said in a statement Friday. “He joins hundreds of Republicans who are backing the Vice President and her patriotic vision of America over former President Trump, because, as Vice President Cheney said, the very future of our republic is at stake in this election.” . . .
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> Joel Payne, a Democratic strategist, said Cheney’s endorsement of Harris highlighted how Democrats will probably need to get comfortable with “strange bedfellows” to defeat Trump — something that may require linking arms with people they once despised.
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> . . . . “This is . . . creating a permission structure for those Republicans who have been alienated by Donald Trump and MAGA to feel comfortable casting a vote for Kamala Harris.”

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/12 "2024-09-07T02:49:12Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Both men are evil. But nobody ever accused Cheney of being stupid.

Nobody ever accused Cheney of being a traitor, either. Nor did he ever foment an insurrection.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/13 "2024-09-07T03:00:15Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He only denies Trump because he has no future in a Trump dictatorship.

Trump is known to embrace Republicans who used to trash talk him just as much as Dick Cheney has. While Dick Cheney doing a 180 next week, endorsing Trump, wouldn’t get him an administration job, assuming a Trump victory, he’d at least get something like a state dinner invite.

And if Trump really becomes a full dictator, a turncoat like Dick Cheney would be at a whole lot bigger chance of arrest than, say, people posting here.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/14 "2024-09-07T03:13:34Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> While Dick Cheney doing a 180 next week, endorsing Trump, wouldn’t get him an administration job, assuming a Trump victory, he’d at least get something like a state dinner invite.

I really doubt that Cheney is looking to get back into government at age 83, wheelchair-bound and with an artificial heart.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/15 "2024-09-07T07:02:55Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> [Harris campaign response:](https://wapo.st/4gfCTg3)
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> > “The Vice President is proud to have the support of Vice President Cheney, and deeply respects his courage to put country over party,” Harris campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon said in a statement Friday. “He joins hundreds of Republicans who are backing the Vice President and her patriotic vision of America over former President Trump, because, as Vice President Cheney said, the very future of our republic is at stake in this election.” . . .

[To quote Churchill](https://www.nationalchurchillmuseum.org/world-war-ii-churchills-finest-hour.html),

> In June 1941, Hitler astonished the world again by invading Germany’s nominal ally Russia, turning it into an ally of Britain. Churchill, a long-time anti-communist, remarked, “If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons.”

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/16 "2024-09-07T12:23:15Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> RINO and Never TFGer are synonyms to these people.

Yeah; the MAGA faction of the Republicans are a Trump personality cult. _Not_ supporting Trump to them automatically makes someone an enemy of the Republican party, which they regard as properly an extension of Trump’s will and nothing more. So they’ll definitely call Cheney “not a real Republican” for this.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/17 "2024-09-07T12:45:00Z")

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I can see Cheney not being a fan of Trump. This is not the republican party Cheney grew up in and he’d not be a fan. Nevertheless, his support of Harris is surprising. I wonder if part of this, for Dick, is to support Liz? Liz won’t have a political future if Trump/MAGA is in power.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/18 "2024-09-07T12:49:40Z")

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I hate Cheney and think he was seriously corrupt and basically arranged the Iraq war.

He is a die-hard Hawk. He is Cold-War (wanna-be) Warrior. He hates and distrusts Putin.

He probably actually does see Trump as a very serious threat to the US.  
He probably also sees Trump as a threat to his Daughter’s future.

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Cheney, corrupt and evil within the normal parameters of corrupt and evil.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/19 "2024-09-11T16:04:18Z")

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2 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Keyhotea Cornfielded Posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keyhotea-cornfielded-posts/1007125/21)

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-cheney-endorses-harris/1006881/20 "2024-09-07T13:03:07Z")

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I think of him as [Mr. Potter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Potter) instead and I won’t forgive him, but it would be a big plus in the did something good category.

A 2016 thread on the Neocons (Cheney was generally considered their leader).

> [@Neocons in Hysterics Over Trump Candidacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neocons-in-hysterics-over-trump-candidacy/747885):
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> The Dick Cheney wing of the GOP has gone into total core meltdown over Trump. Listen to waterboarding advocate Max Boot: [I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/us/politics/anti-donald-trump-republicans-call-for-a-third-party-option.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0) I think the crazy bastard really means it. His bunch have repeatedly described a Trump nomination in apocalyptic terms. Some guy at the National Review said the GOP needs to “all but machine-gun the man to the floor.” What’s going on here? Even Bernie Sanders would take Trump over Stalin. (Sanders is m…

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