# Dick Durbin says sorry - will those who supported his comments say sorry too? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275 "2005-06-21T23:57:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/221 "2005-06-23T17:58:23Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > O’Reilly’s lawyer admitted there were tapes. The reason we haven’t seen them is that O’Reilly bought them as part of the settlement. Thanks for the update - I hadn’t heard that part. \*\*Debaser \*\*, go listen to the part where O’Reilly talks about how much he likes to have a vibrator up his ass. Pure comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/222 "2005-06-23T18:27:39Z")
> [@dropzone - Episode 2](#): > > Oh yeah? Since when have I been an “authority figure,” HUH? **Call ME names, will ya** …Then I fucking APOLOGIZE, **asshole**! Oh, I forgot to top it off with some tears. [Durbin] Boo-hoo! I’m such a sorry excuse for a human being! [/Durbin] (big 😉 and bigger 😃 ) > [@Dropzone - Episode 1](#): > > Originally Posted by dropzone > Horseshit back at you. **Turds like you** CHOSE to twist his words into something he didn’t mean in order to make a partisan point. That, for the record, is LYING. No matter how clear he had made his statement **LIARS like YOU** would have twisted his words to suit your own sick, perverted beliefs. **“People” like you have RUINED this country’s reputation** , either through your actions or through the your support for those actions, and I DEMAND that you recognize that **you are LOUSY, STINKING LIARS WHO ARE BOUND AND DETERMINED TO DESTROY THE UNITED STATES** and I DEMAND you apologize for it AND take actions to end the slide you have started. Anything less will prove that **you are the scum I say you are**. > [@Yeticus Rex - Episode 1a](#): > > I’m not the one who is trying to make a partisan point, **you so-called “scum” calling authority figure of the SDMB**. Go back and re-read my two posts…I’m disgusted with both sides of the aisle, including the usual assortment of harpies here. Current Score: dropzone: 6 Yeticus Rex: 1 Dude, check yourself…for your own benefit. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/223 "2005-06-23T18:37:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > As to the quote: go here: > [http://mediamatters.org/items/200506220006](http://mediamatters.org/items/200506220006) > > “Media Matters” is, precisely, a cite devoted to exposing right winger lies and exaggerations. They do, however, offer an audio clip. If you wish, you can listen. And if you wish, you can try to advance an assertion of fraud or forgery. But “Wild Bill” doth truly loathe “Media Matters”, and if they had done such, there is little doubt he would go utterly ballistic with self-righteous wrath. But he won’t. You know it, I know it. Because its the simple truth, and because he’s quite proud of himself. > > I don’t make shit up, **Deeb**. I don’t have to, the cockroaches of right wing lies are so thick, you can’t take two steps without crunching one underfoot. > > Now, would you prefer to kiss my ass, or go pound burdocks? Yep. It sure sounds like O’Reilly said that. Thanks for providing the cite as requested. Why is it that I have to kiss ass or pound anything? The simple request for a cite is now an insultable offense? Wow. GD is going to overflow with pittings now! ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/224 "2005-06-23T18:44:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > \*\*Debaser \*\*, go listen to the part where O’Reilly talks about how much he likes to have a vibrator up his ass. Pure comedy gold. I can’t because it doesn’t exist. You know it doesn’t exist, yet you still repeat stuff like this. You are a liar. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/225 "2005-06-23T18:47:50Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > …Why is it that I have to kiss ass or pound anything? The simple request for a cite is now an insultable offense? Wow. GD is going to overflow with pittings now! Batting big brown innocent eyes, are we? Very well, if I misunderstood, I apologize. Sure _looked_ like you were being personally vociferous, especially with that remark suggesting that Bill O’Reilly is some sort of personal Betty Noyer of mine. I take it, then, that you withdraw that suggestion? And we are in agreement that Mr. O’Reilly is a repugnant asshole, and a stain on our political discourse? Peachy. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/226 "2005-06-23T18:52:14Z")
> [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Current Score: > > dropzone: 6 > Yeticus Rex: 1 > > Dude, check yourself…for your own benefit. But by your scoring I’m winning! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/227 "2005-06-23T19:01:32Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > I can’t because it doesn’t exist. You know it doesn’t exist, yet you still repeat stuff like this. You are a liar. Tsk, tsk, still having trouble in class, are we? Perhaps your parents can hire a tutor. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/228 "2005-06-23T19:07:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > In re: Karl Rove’s recent pus-eruption, this just in: > > [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050623/ap\_on\_re\_us/rove\_speech](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050623/ap_on_re_us/rove_speech) > \*\* > Dems Say Rove Should Apologize or Resign\*\* > > Could it be? Can they, in fact, be growing some stones? > > Oh, frabjous day! I chortle in my glee! so, like where is the pit thread on Rove’s statement? or does he get an automatic pass since claiming that liberals/democrats coddle terrorists is ok? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/229 "2005-06-23T19:10:02Z")
Whoa, there, big horse! That’s fair dinkum. Whether its a polite request for a cite, or a vituperous demand for a cite, you got it, you bring it. I have every confidence that you can, but, really, you must, mustn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/230 "2005-06-23T19:12:02Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Batting big brown innocent eyes, are we? Very well, if I misunderstood, I apologize. Sure _looked_ like you were being personally vociferous, especially with that remark suggesting that Bill O’Reilly is some sort of personal Betty Noyer of mine. I take it, then, that you withdraw that suggestion? And we are in agreement that Mr. O’Reilly is a repugnant asshole, and a stain on our political discourse? > > Peachy. I simply thought it odd that you would go through the trouble of looking something up on the net, post it in quotes, but not post the source for us to see. It comes as no surprise that it’s a left wing O’Reilly bashing site, but I’m also not shocked that O’Reilly would say such a thing. I was simply curious to see the cite for myself. As to O’Reilly being a pet issue for you, I can recall you mentioning him quite often. However, I do tend to get you and **DtC** mixed up, so I might be mistaken. You certainly came out of nowhere in this thread to insult him with no real reason or prompting. As to Mr O himself, I like the guy. He’s hardly a right winger if you look at his views on issues. His honesty about where he falls on issues is refreshing and certainly preferable to the hardly hidden bias of most journalists on the networks. His overwhelming popularity speaks for itself. His interviews are great and he hits hard to both right and left wingers that come on the show. The few liberals who have embraced him are better off for it. (Al Sharpton is regularly on the show. I’ve seen George Clooney, Jeanene Garofalo, and other hollywood liberals do well on his show also.) I do beleive that Gore cost himself the election by not doing the show. He only needed a few votes in Florida and O’Reilly is very popular there. The one thing O’Reilly can’t stand is those who hide from him, and he really called Gore out on that one. Bush answered tough questions in his interview that election year, but it really helped him that he alone had the courage to do it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/231 "2005-06-23T19:12:24Z")
> [@wring](#): > > so, like where is the pit thread on Rove’s statement? or does he get an automatic pass since claiming that liberals/democrats coddle terrorists is ok? Why bother, this will do. Besides, pitting lies from Rove is like picking out individual grains of sand on the beach. (PS: previous post aimed at **Elvis** , if it’s not obvioius…) ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/232 "2005-06-23T19:14:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Why bother, this will do. 'cept I hate that whole “oh YEAH? well YOUR guy said/did THIS and that’s WORSEN, so Neener neener neener” type of thing. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/233 "2005-06-23T19:16:54Z")
> [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Dude, check yourself…for your own benefit. Pssst! Dude! Note the use of smilies in the post you replied to. BOTH a big wink and a bigger stupid grin. You weren’t supposed to take me seriously. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/234 "2005-06-23T19:20:09Z")
It’s in the fucking text already in the fucking cite from the fucking Smoking Gun I already fucking linked to. But okay, you got me, it’s the plaintiff’s impression that’s what he was doing while talking to her - including her recollection of him ejaculating, which a person more reasonable than \*\*debaser \*\* might take as evidence that he was enjoying it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/235 "2005-06-23T19:21:44Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > …However, I do tend to get you and **DtC** mixed up, so I might be mistaken… Well, that tears it! You confuse me with **Doggyknees**?! Who’s views on Bakhunin are demonstrably revisionist? Who does not accept the primacy of revolutionary cadres in the formulation of anarcho-syndicalism? Who publicly admits his refusal to accept the correct party line of the Minnesota Seccessionist Alliance, and stubbornly adheres to the Alliance of Minnesota Seccessionists? And who is, beyond all his other failings, a notorious slut! You go too far, sir! Too far! ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/236 "2005-06-23T19:35:06Z")
I knew that would shake you to the core. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/237 "2005-06-23T19:39:38Z")
Then your provocation was deliberate! My second will call on you, sir, and I suggest you get your earthly affairs in order. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/238 "2005-06-23T19:40:50Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Tsk, tsk, still having trouble in class, are we? Perhaps your parents can hire a tutor. You claimed that > [@](#): > > Debaser , go listen to the part where O’Reilly talks about how much he likes to have a vibrator up his ass. Pure comedy gold. And then backpeddled to > [@](#): > > But okay, you got me, it’s the plaintiff’s impression that’s what he was doing while talking to her - including her recollection of him ejaculating Now, I assume you’re refering to the item numbered [81](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris17.html) in the suit. But that does not say what your original claim was. In other words, you’ve distorted the truth. Very poor form. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/239 "2005-06-23T19:41:13Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s in the fucking text already in the fucking cite from the fucking Smoking Gun I already fucking linked to. You seem to be equating something being on the smoking gun and something actually being true. They are hardly the same. Smoking gun simply posts documents obtained via freedom of information act. Just because somebody hires a lawyer and files a lawsuit doesn’t make everything they say true. You were suggesting that I listen to a tape where O’Reilly can be heared putting a dildo up his ass. It doesn’t exist. If there ever was a tape, which we don’t even know, than we won’t be hearing it because O’Reilly bought it. Do you even care if what you claim is true anymore? Did you ever? ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/240 "2005-06-23T19:45:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Then your provocation was deliberate! Deliberate. Yes. But, also honest and true. I want it to be absolutely clear: I knew my comment would offend you, but it was not designed or concocted to do so. It was simply the truth, which of course makes it all the more offensive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275.md?page=13)