# Dick Durbin says sorry - will those who supported his comments say sorry too? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275 "2005-06-21T23:57:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/321 "2005-06-25T03:57:56Z")
Well, I agree. I said upthread that there was no allegation that O’Reilly explicitly stated, or even implied that he specifically liked the vibrators to be inserted in his caboose. Mackey’s own inferrence was that he was “using the vibrator on himself” but, as I said, there are other ways that he could have been doing. People are completely bizarre when it comes to sexual kinks. Who knows what he was doing? He could have been using it on his genitals. He could have been using it on a Barbie doll or jamming it in his ear. He may just get off on the sound. Anyway, his fondness for vibrators, while hysterically funny, is not a crime and is not what got him in trouble. To me, the most unflattering thing in the complaint was not even the sex calls, but his ranting threats about what he would do to any woman who talked. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/322 "2005-06-25T04:00:35Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/323 "2005-06-25T13:02:57Z")
> [@wring](#): > > being able to assert it’s truth. a distinction lost on **milroyj** and apparently also **Elvis** in this case. Honeychild, I already responded to your little-foot-stomping demand by agreeing that O’Reilly didn’t say it, he acted it out. If you had actually bothered to read the thread before trying to junior-mod it, you’d have known that long ago. If you have some actual content to contribute to this thread, or to the board in general, you’re welcome to do so at any time. Nothing you’ve said here is content, or a contribution, however, and in fact has lowered its tone - and this is the _Pit_. If you’ve enjoyed joining \*\*John \*\* and \*\*Finn \*\* in their little wankfest here, that’s nice - but you should have taken a lesson from O’Reilly, kept it in private, and not posted the transcripts here. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/324 "2005-06-25T13:17:54Z")
being accused of contentless posts by you just broke my irony meter. if you felt I wasjunior modding, report me. and I’ll take my rep here over yours any day. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/325 "2005-06-25T14:42:48Z")
You may certainly apologize via e-mail if you’re too embarrassed to do it in public here. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/326 "2005-06-25T14:56:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You may certainly apologize via e-mail if you’re too embarrassed to do it in public here. for what? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/327 "2005-06-25T15:55:29Z")
Just so this is totally ready for the glue factory: > [@](#): > > go listen to the part where O’Reilly talks about how much he likes to have a vibrator up his ass. Pure comedy gold. This is pure fantasy. You made it up. Why did you feel it was okay to lie in order to make your point? Then, instead of apologizing for lying, you backpeddle. > [@](#): > > But okay, you got me, it’s the plaintiff’s impression that’s what he was doing while talking to her - including her recollection of him ejaculating So, not only don’t we get an apology, we get a half assed “you got me”. And then, of course, the second half of the sentence is a lie. The plaintif did not claim that she thought that’s what he was doing, only that he was using a vibe, and he climaxed. As **Dio** pointed out, the fucker may have used it for various purposes. In other words, you’ve done your best to distort the truth from the word go. That you’re still not willing to admit that is unsettling. But hey, anybody who wants you to stick to the truth must be a total bastard, right? /wankfest. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/328 "2005-06-25T16:00:53Z")
nice summaion, **Finn** maybe you could help me figure why **Elvis** thinks I should appologize to him? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/329 "2005-06-25T16:42:56Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > The point is that until you hear the actual conversation, in context, drawing conclusions about it is a fools errand. But don’t let me stop you from that errand, if you are so inclined. > [@](#): > > Transcripts and audio clips alone don’t do it for ya, hoss? I’m still waiting for a link to the "audio clips. Like I said, I’ll give him a pass on the “transcripts” part, even though you really can’t call what is on TheSmokingGun a “transcript”. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/330 "2005-06-25T16:46:10Z")
I’m trying desperately to figure out why the title of this thread isn’t “Endless, pointless whinging about O’Reilly’s harassment suit (warning! Soul-damaging imagery)” Oh, that’s right! Because the whole O’Reilly thing is a giant pointless distraction with absolutely no relation to the original purpose of the thread! Way to give Karl Rove a giant, throbbing woody, folks! ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/331 "2005-06-25T17:04:03Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Oh, that’s right! Because the whole O’Reilly thing is a giant pointless distraction with absolutely no relation to the original purpose of the thread! Way to give Karl Rove a giant, throbbing woody, folks! Karl Rove reads the Straight Dope?!?! :eek: Oh no! Hide the women and children!!! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/332 "2005-06-25T22:38:28Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Way to give Karl Rove a giant, throbbing woody, folks! As if the O’Reilly images weren’t enough. Thanks a bunch. **wring, finn** , I’ve made myself clear enough to anyone \*not \* engulfed in a self-generated mist of pretended righteousness. You’ve thrown around very loose accusations of a serious nature without first considering the results, you’ve had the facts explained to you, you’ve ignored them and turned up the volume instead of listening. An adult would not have done that, and, if she had, would at some point have realized it and backed down, yes, with the apology that mystifies you so. Someone with an actual interest in the purpose of the board would at some point have contributed some actual content to the discussion instead of screaming about other people’s attempts to do so - but you haven’t even considered that, have you? But suit yourself. As for the subject you brought up instead, comparative reputations, ask **Hamlet** how well that little poll turned out for him when he tried it. You \*really \* might not want to know, especially not after this extended tantrum you’ve put on here for everyone to see. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/333 "2005-06-25T22:46:41Z")
it bothers me more when some one on "my side"is ashitty dishonest debator. you are correct that folks can and will judge for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/334 "2005-06-26T02:12:19Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I’ve made myself clear enough to anyone \*not \* engulfed in a self-generated mist of pretended righteousness. Maaaaaaaan! I am such a slacker. Here I go and self-generate a mist and I can’t even self-generate a mist of real righteousness. Naw, my lazy slacker ass just self-generated a mist of pretend righteousness. You’re right **Elvis** , I apologize. Really. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/335 "2005-06-26T02:18:35Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Maaaaaaaan! I am such a slacker. Here I go and self-generate a mist and I can’t even self-generate a mist of real righteousness. Naw, my lazy slacker ass just self-generated a mist of pretend righteousness. There are pills you can take for that. I hear [Beano](http://www.beanogas.com/) works quite well. (Not that I’d have any personal experience or anything.) ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/336 "2005-06-26T02:32:55Z")
Naw, as **Elvis** was so kind to point out, my mist [can cloud men’s minds.](http://members.iquest.net/~drivers/images/Shadow.gif) Sorry to hear about your, um, friend’s… problem though 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/337 "2005-06-26T02:46:35Z")
Who knows what evil lurks in the f -Nope, can’t do it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275/338 "2005-06-27T00:35:32Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Karl Rove reads the Straight Dope?!?! :eek: > Oh no! Hide the women and children!!! And don’t let him near the potato salad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-durbin-says-sorry-will-those-who-supported-his-comments-say-sorry-too/309275.md?page=16)