# Dick-slicers of the world, unite! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 28, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432 "2017-04-28T12:58:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/61 "2017-04-28T19:45:29Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Oh, and don’t try to convince me that my life is somehow worse because I’ve been circumcised. Sorry, but it isn’t. I don’t need another thing to wish was different to decrease my net happiness. You will not convince me, no matter how much it bothers you personally. I honestly wish circumcised men could be left to feel it is NBD what was done to them (after all, it’s too late to change), while somehow simultaneously stopping the practice going forward. But that’s a pretty tough circle to square. If some cultures had a routine practice of removing one of an infant’s eyes in infancy, you can bet that adults who had this done to them would insist that they can see just fine, that two eyes are redundant, that stereoscopic vision is overrated or even a myth (“I can see whether things are closer or farther away, too!”). ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/62 "2017-04-28T19:46:17Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I think it’s interesting that pro-circ (or at least anti-anti-circ) folks seem to so commonly assume the anti-circ crowd is entirely made up of circumcised men who are mad at their parents. First of all, my experience is that here in the U.S. it’s more mothers than anything. Secondly, what about the intact men who are horrified by the whole concept, because they actually know what they’d be losing? That describes me (and my two sons), and it’s almost got to be true of [Russell Crowe](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2832115/Russell-Crowe-weighs-circumcision-debate-Twitter-row-called-procedure-barbaric-stupid.html), born and raised in a non-circumcising culture. Surely we’re not the only ones! I’ve got to assume most European, Asian, and Latin American men see this debate (if they’re aware of it at all) and just go “seriously, WTF?”. I did NOT imply he was mad with his parents. Just that if he had a complaint it should be taken to them, not us. And I was curious both if he had and how the conversation went. (So sorry to bump up against you’re unfounded assumptions though! ) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/63 "2017-04-28T19:47:29Z")
Anymore the anti-circ crowd sounds a lot like the anti-vax crowd. Whatever your feelings on infant circumcision, you might want to reconsider your approach. (Hint: comics like “Foreskin Man” don’t help your cause.) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/64 "2017-04-28T19:51:00Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I honestly wish circumcised men could be left to feel it is NBD what was done to them (after all, it’s too late to change), while somehow simultaneously stopping the practice going forward. But that’s a pretty tough circle to square. > > If some cultures had a routine practice of removing one of an infant’s eyes in infancy, you can bet that adults who had this done to them would insist that they can see just fine, that two eyes are redundant, that stereoscopic vision is overrated or even a myth (“I can see whether things are closer or farther away, too!”). You don’t know if we would feel any better or worse for being uncirced, and you don’t know if you would feel any better or worse for being circed. All you have to bring to the table is-_you don’t know_. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/65 "2017-04-28T19:51:01Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > If some cultures had a routine practice of removing one of an infant’s eyes in infancy, you can bet that adults who had this done to them would insist that they can see just fine, that two eyes are redundant, that stereoscopic vision is overrated or even a myth (“I can see whether things are closer or farther away, too!”). Uh huh. If some culture had a routine practice of never bathing, you can bet that adults would insist that they weren’t germ-ridden and filthy and that those “unfortunate” enough to have their dirt removed were totally missing out on the glory of body lice. See how easy this is to just make shit up to support your imaginary position? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/66 "2017-04-28T19:52:28Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > Please enlighten me, I’ve tried many ways but I’m sure there’s may more solution to practice going Japanese and I’m always curious to find out more fulfilling ways. I’ll let this quote answer your request. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Go watch a video-there are a few hundred thousand available on the internet, I’m told. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/67 "2017-04-28T19:53:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Anymore the anti-circ crowd sounds a lot like the anti-vax crowd. As I mentioned before, there’s not a whole lot of distance between the two “citing” from nonsense websites with names like [MoonMotherHealthMagic.org](http://MoonMotherHealthMagic.org) and [StopCuttingBabyWieners.org](http://StopCuttingBabyWieners.org) while wildly over-reading into or misinterpreting any actual medical studies. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/68 "2017-04-28T20:10:47Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > So you’re all het up because other people are choosing otherwise? > > Okey dokey then! Have at it, and Good Luck to you! > > (Personally, I’m all for individual choice. No one’s business but the family!) I’m not “het up because other people are choosing otherwise”. However, I don’t particularly care to be casually slandered by a pack of smug assholes who say that the default position for one’s manhood is the inferior one. Fuck that shit. You wanna circumcise yourself? Great. You wanna circumcise your son? Whatever - I think it’s a mistake, but it doesn’t exactly rise to the level of a war crime or anything. But if you try to make _us_ out like we’re the weirdos? Nope. I repeat - fuck that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/69 "2017-04-28T20:13:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Anymore the anti-circ crowd sounds a lot like the anti-vax crowd. Whatever your feelings on infant circumcision, you might want to reconsider your approach. > > (Hint: comics like “Foreskin Man” don’t help your cause.) :dubious: Yeah, because being “anti-circ” as you term it is on the same level of reality-denial as anti-vax. Right. Fuck off back to your FGM thread, you cretinous twat. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/70 "2017-04-28T20:15:55Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > :dubious: Yeah, because being “anti-circ” as you term it is on the same level of reality-denial as anti-vax. I’m sure the anti-vaxxers stomp their feet and claim it’s nothing like being a flat-earther, too. If you don’t like the company you keep, find better company. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/71 "2017-04-28T20:18:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You don’t know if we would feel any better or worse for being uncirced, and you don’t know if you would feel any better or worse for being circed. All you have to bring to the table is-_you don’t know_. I suppose that’s true about any body part, then? Maybe we should be removing babies’ ears. Makes it easier to wear hats! Who are you to say whether that would be better or worse! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/72 "2017-04-28T20:19:33Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I’m sure the anti-vaxxers stomp their feet and claim it’s nothing like being a flat-earther, too. If you don’t like the company you keep, find better company. Yet, if you look at any ranking of the world’s healthiest countries, there is very little circumcision in them. Not true about vaccinations. So much for your analogy. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/73 "2017-04-28T20:21:02Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Yet, if you look at any ranking of the world’s healthiest countries, there is very little circumcision in them. Correlation/causation, etc. Come on, I thought Dopers were smarter than that ☹ It’s also worth noting that 99.999999995% of the population of these countries aren’t embarrassing themselves on the internet with screeds about baby penises and links to [CircumcisionsAreEvil.org](http://CircumcisionsAreEvil.org) quasi-cites. I’m not speaking of the general population of any nation, I’m speaking of the rabid anti-circ weirdos. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/74 "2017-04-28T20:40:14Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > So you’re all het up because other people are choosing otherwise? > > Okey dokey then! Have at it, and Good Luck to you! > > (Personally, I’m all for individual choice. No one’s business but the family!) Infants are not making the choice themselves - the choice is made for them. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/75 "2017-04-28T20:42:06Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > Infants are not making the choice themselves - the choice is made for them. Yeah, children are weird like that. They don’t get a lot of choices when they are less than a year old. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/76 "2017-04-28T20:47:51Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Correlation/causation, etc. Come on, I thought Dopers were smarter than that ☹ > > It’s also worth noting that 99.999999995% of the population of these countries aren’t embarrassing themselves on the internet with screeds about baby penises and links to [CircumcisionsAreEvil.org](http://CircumcisionsAreEvil.org) quasi-cites. I’m not speaking of the general population of any nation, I’m speaking of the rabid anti-circ weirdos. Those nations don’t need “rabid anti-circers”, because they already know better than to do something so barbaric. As for correlation/causation, I was responding to a claim that being anti-circ was like being anti-vax. Do you think those world’s healthiest countries could stop vaccinating and remain at the top of the rankings? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/77 "2017-04-28T20:52:46Z")
There are rankings for penises?? ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/78 "2017-04-28T20:58:53Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, children are weird like that. They don’t get a lot of choices when they are less than a year old. Ah, yes sure, because cutting of part of the body for no apparent reason, is on the same level as what you’ll have for breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/79 "2017-04-28T21:03:08Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Correlation/causation, etc. Come on, I thought Dopers were smarter than that ☹ …but you’re apparently not one of the smarter ones. > [@Jophiel](#): > > It’s also worth noting that 99.999999995% of the population of these countries aren’t embarrassing themselves on the internet with screeds about baby penises and links to [CircumcisionsAreEvil.org](http://CircumcisionsAreEvil.org) quasi-cites. I’m not speaking of the general population of any nation, I’m speaking of the rabid anti-circ weirdos. …or those mutilate their-children weirdos, trying to justify it’s purpose. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432/80 "2017-04-28T21:36:49Z")
Who was it that wouldn’t shut up about circumcision about 15 years ago? Jack something, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dick-slicers-of-the-world-unite/785432.md?page=5)