So, you’re suggesting we take vote fraud out of the hands of the people, and put it in the hands of corporations where it belongs?
I mis- typed, not “ACORN” anymore. Since 30 emloyees have been convicted of voter fraud and 14 states have fraud cases pending, ACORN has changed it’s tarnished name to “community organizations international”.
And what has Diebold changed its tarnished name to, after the CEO promised that he’d rig the election?
All I want is honest elections. Both sides would be stymied . Even the Iraq voters were smarter than us, using indelible ink that took 2 weeks to wear off. One inked finger…one vote. Hanging chads…c’mon, 2011…we can find a better way. Aren’t you angry when you see these 40 year politicians ? Really ? Some never punched a time-clock, owned a business, no life experience… Harry Reid spent two years as a lawyer after college then went into politics… . coming from a poor family, how did he become a multi- millionaire ? All crooks.
Then why did you propose replacing systems which enforced a degree of honesty with something that could be cheated effortlessly by a small handful of people in the right place? OK, if you want to do the ink-on-the-thumb thing, I can see the argument for that, but that’s exactly the opposite direction from what you were proposing.
Agreement on that, Chronos. True we can’t and shouldn’t trust elected officials, because their main job is to keep that job. I’ll take heat suggesting only income earners who actually paid taxes should be our only voters. Anyone who works for the government or is on the dole should not have a vote because their personal interest may not be the country’s best. Just a thought. As for my ATM idea, I’ve used them for years and they’ve never erred with my withdrawals..dammit.
Then nobody should be allowed to vote. Anybody’s personal interest may not be the country’s best.
So you’re suggesting we expand the franchise to include illegal immigrants? Right now, all the people who vote also pay taxes, but not all the people who pay taxes can vote.
Really. I don’t know, this whole notion of narrowing the franchise is a strange throwback to the Framers’ time. Heck, let’s go even further back and limit it only to landowners while we’re at it!
AFAIK we do not have a problem of too many people voting, but some people feeling that the “wrong” sort of folks are voting and since the turnout is so low they may be decisive. I’m still unconvinced that noncitizen/multiple voting is a major problem nevermind throwing elections. I’d be more concerned about fraud in the form of votes getting cast in the name of those who don’t show up, old fashioned box stuffing/postmortem vote.
great discussion all, We sure are far apart in our political leanings, but it’s great to talk it out. I’m a '65 nam draftee, the country was goofy then and is still nuts now. I wanted to camp out in Colorado instead , but they wouldn’t listen to Me. Personally, I think it’s all about oil, but thats my opinion and my feet are still wet. I’d like to discuss “polls” today. I’ve never met anyone who has answered a “poll” . A good way to test the wind would be to ask people getting off trains on the way to actual JOBS . You know, the productive ones who are paying taxes, and would like a say in how the money is spent. As of today, for some vague reason, the U.S.A. is giving China 1.3 billion (b) in aid every year. I can’t believe even our welfare queens would think that is a good plan. Lets have a “poll” on that . Have at Me guys.
You’re off topic here, puddin. If you’d like to start a new thread, Great Debates would seem to be a better place for it.
twickster, moderator
right, sorry, got carried away.