# Did anyone else catch this in ROTK?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 24, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891 "2003-12-24T19:18:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/41 "2003-12-28T06:34:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miss Mapp \*  
> \*\*“Aragorn and Legolas went now with Eomer in the van.”
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> I always pictured it as a VW minibus with day-glow daisies. \*\*

Actually? Me too. 😉

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/42 "2003-12-28T10:44:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DrFidelius \*  
> My favourite part was when the King of the Dead said to Aragorn, “That oath was more what you’d call a “guideline” than an actual rule.”

That made my day! 😃

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/43 "2003-12-28T14:13:20Z")

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> > “Aragorn and Legolas went now with Eomer in the van.”
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> > I always pictured it as a VW minibus with day-glow daisies.
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> \*Originally posted by Katisha \*  
> \*\*Actually? Me too. 😉 \*\*

And did you imagine them after the battle, driving around with a large dog, solving mysteries? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/44 "2003-12-28T18:18:59Z")

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Pish posh, I knew something was wrong with the film near the beginning, when Merry and Pippin were sitting on Saruman’s coach, eating his Spam, and smoking his Cuban cigars, while watching a news broadcast from Gondor on Saruman’s bib-screen TV.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/45 "2003-12-28T18:39:30Z")

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> No, that was Gollum. Then he sinks into the lava with the ring, and gives Frodo a thumbs up.

Yes, but did you like how the alien burst out of his chest just as he was falling in?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/46 "2003-12-28T18:57:15Z")

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The other thing that surprises me is how surprised people were to learn that Billy Boyd can sing. Didn’t they see the scene in Rivendell in the EE DVD where Sean Astin sits down at teh piano and Billy starts singing, “You must remember this…”

😃

Anyone wonder if Ian McKellen, Billy Boyd, or any of the rest of them have been monitoring these threads and laughing their behinds off at the comments?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/47 "2003-12-28T19:24:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
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> _blah, blah, blah, blah, blah_ 😉  
> Anyone wonder if Ian McKellen, Billy Boyd, or any of the rest of them have been monitoring these threads and laughing their behinds off at the comments? \*\*

Actually, I just saw, some few days ago, an interview with McKellen where he said something aboot spending a lot of time online and enjoying reading fans posts.

So, Sir Ian, if you monitor this particular board… Howdy! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/48 "2003-12-28T19:42:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miss Mapp \*  
> **I always pictured it as a VW minibus with day-glow daisies.**
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> \*Originally posted by Katisha \*  
> **Actually? Me too.**
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> \*Originally posted by Miss Mapp \*  
> **And did you imagine them after the battle, driving around with a large dog, solving mysteries?**

Yes. They called it the “Mithril-y Machine.”

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**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/49 "2003-12-29T00:12:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
> \*\*Anyone wonder if Ian McKellen, Billy Boyd, or any of the rest of them have been monitoring these threads and laughing their behinds off at the comments? \*\*

Don’t know about them, but I’ve been giggling like mad.

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/50 "2003-12-29T01:47:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
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> Anyone wonder if Ian McKellen, Billy Boyd, or any of the rest of them have been monitoring these threads and laughing their behinds off at the comments? \*\*

Oh my… I love you, Elijah!!! CALL ME!!!

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**Author:** ![Tech\_Sass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@Tech\_Sass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tech_Sass)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/51 "2003-12-29T02:09:08Z")

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The soldier wearing glasses didn’t bother me as much as when Sam pulled that bag of Cheetos out of his pack!! Give me a break!

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/52 "2003-12-29T02:35:29Z")

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**dutchboy208** :

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> Now… correct me if I’m wrong, because its been twelve-odd years since I read ROTK, but wasn’t it Gollum who threw the ring into the fires of Mount Doom at the end, thus redeeming himself?

Nope, no redemption for Gollum. He bit off Frodo’s finger, danced around with delight at having recovered his “precious,” and fell into the fires.

Which is really how the story needed to end, but sometimes I like to imagine the other ending, where a slowly healing Smeagol came to the Shire and Sam fulfilled his promise to cook him a proper hobbitish meal, with “taters” and all.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/53 "2003-12-29T02:51:38Z")

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Random thoughts:  
-Weren’t the signal fires Obscured By Clouds a Pink Floyd homage?  
-Having Geoffrey Rush play the leader of the Dead Army was such a fine idea…

and  
-the idea of a redeemed Gollum having tea and taters with Sam just made my day

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/54 "2003-12-29T02:53:34Z")

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It did set up “Lord of the Rings IV: Gollum’s Revenge”

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/55 "2003-12-29T03:18:29Z")

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And has anybody else heard of the new movie in pre-production planning stages, from the producers of “Alien vs. Predator”?

It’s called “Hobbit vs. Ewok”

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/56 "2003-12-29T03:36:34Z")

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I like that old Tony Randall film, _Will Success Spoil Orc Urak_

The song and dance numbers are simply fabulous. Those orcs can dance, let me tell ya.

And who can forget _It’s A Numenor Life_, huh? Jimmy Stewart running around at the end, yelling, “We ride to Mordor, Mr Potter! We ride to Mordor, you wonderful old savings and loan!”

But, my favorite cable show has to be the Middle Earth Network’s  
_Big Freakin’ Queer Eye For The Straight Maia_.  
Those faeries are a hoot!

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/57 "2003-12-29T03:39:12Z")

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I don’t even know what ROTK is, just wanted to say hi to NoClueBoy.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/58 "2003-12-29T03:51:32Z")

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Darlin’, we have got to get you a DVD and a video club membership.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/59 "2003-12-29T06:29:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by well he’s back \*  
> \*\*-Having Geoffrey Rush play the leader of the Dead Army was such a fine idea…
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To be fair, Rush was the second choice for the role… after it turned out that Jerry Garcia wasn’t available…

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/60 "2003-12-29T16:21:58Z")

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> I don’t even know what ROTK is, just wanted to say hi to NoClueBoy.

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> Darlin’, we have got to get you a DVD and a video club membership.

How 'bout y’all just switch names 😉

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