# Did anyone else catch this in ROTK?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 24, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891 "2003-12-24T19:18:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![jeanster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@jeanster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeanster)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/61 "2003-12-29T18:23:02Z")

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And did you notice the Duraflame log in the pile of wood they were going to use to burn Faramir?

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/62 "2003-12-29T18:59:21Z")

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I can’t have been the only one who was having fun noticing the different victory dances after the battle, with everybody spiking their spears or whatever and then breaking out into their own Ickey Shuffles. I swear that the Rohirrim were just doing the hustle (and Eowyn whipping off her chain-mail top was cool), how cute was the all-Hobbit conga line, while Legolas’ looked like it had been choreographed by Martha Graham herself. And Viggo? Love ya, baby, but when Sir Ian is better than you in the Morris dancing, it’s a sign from God to stick to your day job.

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**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/63 "2003-12-29T19:38:09Z")

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I just wonder why the men of Gondor and Rohan didn’t look at the Hobbits’ sensible 19th Century clothing, then look at their own tunics, robes, thights, and other crappy medieval claddings, and then ask Merry and Pippen who their tailor was…

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/64 "2003-12-29T23:47:56Z")

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shoot, i’m still trying to get the name of the elf tailor. silk and velvet, that’s the ticket.

although, i am glad to see that gondor’s big city has showers and baths.

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**Author:** ![porkchop\_d\_clown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@porkchop\_d\_clown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porkchop_d_clown)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/65 "2003-12-30T20:17:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DrFidelius \*  
> \*\*My favourite part was when the King of the Dead said to Aragorn, “That oath was more what you’d call a “guideline” than an actual rule.” \*\*

That’s about as likely as Johnny Depp playing a pirate.

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**Author:** ![Baggins111](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@Baggins111](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baggins111)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/66 "2003-12-31T02:04:52Z")

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OK, I’m surprised that nobody caught this one yet…

Faramir & Co. are retreating from Osgiliath with the Nazgul on their tails. Gandalf rides out to meet them and pulls out a 1920’s Style Death Ray and fends off the Nazgul. It’s hard to see, but the ray is unmistakeable.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/67 "2003-12-31T02:38:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Actually, I just saw, some few days ago, an interview with McKellen where he said something aboot spending a lot of time online and enjoying reading fans posts.
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> So, Sir Ian, if you monitor this particular board… Howdy! 🙂 \*\*

And also, if so, Sir Ian, I gotta ask:

Why didn’t you use any of your magnetic powers in the Battle of Pelennor? You trashed an entire high-tech prison with just three little blobs of iron, and were this )( close to killing an entire city’s police force out in front of a train depot. Surely, you could have made mincemeat out of those orcs and urukhai in their metal armor.

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**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/68 "2003-12-31T04:23:34Z")

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> And Viggo? Love ya, baby, but when Sir Ian is better than you in the Morris dancing, it’s a sign from God to stick to your day job.

If you end up Morris dancing on film for any reason, it is a sign from God to forcefully discipline your agent.

I hope Peter Jackson goes back and corrects all the ‘errors’ fifteen years from now, so we can experience the “greedo shot first= you raped my childhood!” nonsense again.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/69 "2004-01-01T03:30:29Z")

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The Army of the Dead seemed to get lucky too, did you see those Trolls with Positron Colliders and Ghost Traps approaching the front line, the battle could’ve turned right there

Having Ecto 1 being driven by the Uruk’s was a bit over the top i thought…

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/70 "2004-01-01T03:57:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \*  
> \*\*I can’t have been the only one who was having fun noticing the different victory dances after the battle, with everybody spiking their spears or whatever and then breaking out into their own Ickey Shuffles. I swear that the Rohirrim were just doing the hustle (and Eowyn whipping off her chain-mail top was cool), how cute was the all-Hobbit conga line, while Legolas’ looked like it had been choreographed by Martha Graham herself. And Viggo? Love ya, baby, but when Sir Ian is better than you in the Morris dancing, it’s a sign from God to stick to your day job. \*\*

Yes, but Eowyn pulling the cell phone out from under the fell beast was a little too much, I thought.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/71 "2004-01-01T04:42:23Z")

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Now I really have to see this movie in the theater so I can see all the goofs! It looks like a circus! It didn’t happen to have a ship with warp drive, did it?

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/72 "2004-01-01T04:44:51Z")

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Not to ruin this thread with something factual, but did anyone else read the Newsweek sidebar on errors in the first two movies? The reporter printed out a ream of goofs listed by sharp viewers (from the internet, of course) and started going over them with P. Jackson. He admitted to a few, noted one had been corrected for the DVD, argued with some others… at first he said going through them was a hoot … but later on he was like “You’ve got HOW many more pages of those?”

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**Author:** ![Scorpio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Scorpio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scorpio)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/73 "2004-01-01T08:58:54Z")

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I like that bit when Frodo and Sam are in their Orc armour disguises and they’re rescuing Princess Eowyn and she says ‘Aren’t you a little short for an Orc-warrior?’

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**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/74 "2004-01-01T12:42:00Z")

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I thought it was a little annoying how every time Sam cried, “Master Frodo!” a horse whinnied off-screen.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/75 "2004-01-01T14:34:23Z")

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What got me was the 1-800 reservations number on _The Prancing Pony_’s sign. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CBCD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@CBCD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBCD)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/76 "2004-01-01T15:17:03Z")

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I liked it at the end where Gandalf, Gimli, and the rest of the **Fab Fellowship** gathered in their loft, drank Cosmopolitans, and reviewed **Sauron’s makeover** on the flat-screen HDTV.

Changing the **harsh grey color scheme of Mordor** to give it more of a **soft, updated Rivendell look** was brilliant. I loved how they changed **The Eye** from an evil, scary thing, to a warm, friendly ‘Here I am, this is me, come hug me’ expression of the new Sauron’s **more relaxed lifestyle.** Getting rid of all those nasty, dirty orcs that were cluttering up Mordor also helped Sauron express his new image. I think he looks great now!

I understand they’re planning to do a **makeover on Tom Bombadil** for the sequel. Goldberry has had it with all the towels left on the bathroom floor.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/77 "2004-01-01T19:42:05Z")

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HEhehe, you know, Ian McKellen would make a really excellent Doper!

Speaking of spotting specs and such, in _Titanic_, I’m sure you remember that Bernard Hill played Captain Smith. There’s a scene where you can see he’s wearing contact lenses, I believe.

In the fight scene between Gandolf and Saruman in _Fellowship_, I kept wanting to say, “Join me Gandolf…and together we can destroy the Sith-er, I mean Sauron!”

Or, “This battle will not be decided by our mastery of magic…but by our skills with a staff!”

😛

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**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/78 "2004-01-01T22:31:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Eutychus \*  
> \*\*Yes, but Eowyn pulling the cell phone out from under the fell beast was a little too much, I thought. \*\*

Can you hear me now? Good.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/79 "2004-01-02T03:30:32Z")

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i just watched it again tonight, and i’m pretty sure i saw a Snowspeeder in the battle against the Oliphants.

it was a sweet touch at the end of the movie to see Gandalf riding up on his Harley Fat-Boy with Bilbo in the sidecar, however, as a motorcyclist myself, i was a little disturbed that they weren’t wearing helmets…

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/80 "2004-01-02T04:14:55Z")

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The billboards urging passersby to turn their palantirs to Mordor News’ “Eye on Middle Earth” was a nice touch, I thought. 🙂

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