# Did anyone else catch this in ROTK?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 24, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891 "2003-12-24T19:18:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/81 "2004-01-02T04:22:07Z")

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Yeah, but the satellite dishes all over Minas Tirith were a bit much.

And what was it with the Orcs building a tollbooth on the Rohan-Gondor Expressway? A _toolbooth_??! Come on! Any Darl Lord worth his SXVGA _palantir_ would have used STD spikes at least. Duh.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/82 "2004-01-02T04:24:49Z")

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[Slim Pickens as a Rohan commander]

A toll booth!? What in THE hell? Anyone got any dimes?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/83 "2004-01-02T05:45:24Z")

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This was in TTT, not ROTK, but I guess it’s relevant. When the Heroic Trio was chasing the Uruk Hai across the plains, they kept passing signs:

\*DWARVES AND ELVES

ARE LOOKING REGAL

BUT HELPLESS HOBBITS

ARE DODGING SMEAGOL

BURMA SHAVE\*

Does anybody know what this was about?

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**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/84 "2004-01-02T05:55:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> \*\*Does anybody know what this was about? \*\*

Clearly it was about Burma Shave. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/85 "2004-01-02T08:29:43Z")

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I personally thought that when Pippin was singing to Denethor, they could have at least kept the video screen from the karaoke machine out of the frame.

And didn’t Eomer (Karl Urban) used to play with that '80s heavy metal band, Armored Saint?

Furthermore, just how many times does Sam have to stab somebody to get some blood on his sword?

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2004, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/86 "2004-01-02T08:55:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Phase42 \*  
> **And didn’t Eomer (Karl Urban) used to play with that '80s heavy metal band, Armored Saint?**

No, it was Warrant.

And I’m pretty sure I saw a zipper on Shelob.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/87 "2004-01-04T04:07:38Z")

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Was anyone else a little weirded out during the crowning scene when Rafiki declared “Da king has returned!” ? Because I don’t mind admitting I was.

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**Author:** ![Baggins111](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@Baggins111](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baggins111)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/88 "2004-01-04T05:06:01Z")

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**Elfkin** , that wasn’t as bad as when Gandlaf picked up Aragorn and walked him to the edge of Pride Rock at the top of Minas Tirith and held him out over the crowd and they all cheered.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/89 "2004-01-04T05:48:10Z")

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Wasn’t the music during Aragorn and Arwen’s wedding night scene the same porno music that they unwittingly used for ‘The People’s Court’ theme?

And who knew Elf women had THOSE? Learn something new every day.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/90 "2004-01-04T06:29:47Z")

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I got a sneak peek at the Extended Edition DVD of Return of the King, through a contact I have in the industry, and let me tell you something: you guys are gonna shit your pants at some of the new footage. I am talking absolutely jaw-dropping stuff - why it ended up on the cutting room floor I cannot imagine. There’s a LOT more Legolas and Gimli, a lot more. There’s this great exchange after they raise the army of the dead and are headed to commandeer the black ships:

GIMLI: So now we find passage to Gondor to fight the minions of Mordor!

LEGOLAS: And it shall not be a pleasant visit. I have been to Mordor.

GIMLI: You? To Mordor?

LEGOLAS: Yes, a strange place it is. Everything is just a little different. They have the same manners and arts we have, but they are just different.

GIMLI: Example?

LEGOLAS: Well, in Mordor, in a movie theatre, you can buy a beer. And I speak not of a paper cup, but a glass of mead. And you can buy a beer in a McDonald’s. And do you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Mordor?

GIMLI: They do not call it a Quarter Pounder? But that is the name by which we have called it for centuries!

LEGOLAS: They do not, for they have the metric system, and wouldst not know what the fuck a quarter pound is.

GIMLI: The brigands! What do they call it?

LEGOLAS: A Royale with Cheese.

GIMLI: Ha ha! A Royale with Cheese! Most droll! And what do they call a Big Mac, sir elf?

LEGOLAS: “Le Big Mac.”

GIMLI: It is to laugh! And what do they call a Whopper?

LEGOLAS: I don’t know, ne’er did I enter a Burger King, Gimli, son of Gloin. And do you know what they doused their French fries in?

GIMLI: What, sir elf?

LEGOLAS: Mayonnaise!

GIMLI: Yuck!

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/91 "2004-01-05T02:15:58Z")

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Speaking of the Extended Edition, there was that scene that didn’t make the theatrical release – the one with Aragorn, Sauron, and Denethor all getting in touch over the palantirs:

Aragorn: Yo, big eye, whazzzaaaaaaaaaapppp!  
Sauron: Kicking back, conquering the world. Whaaazzzaaaaaapppp!  
Aragorn: Yo, Denethor! Whaaaazaaaaaaaaaaaap…

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/92 "2004-01-05T03:42:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Actually, I just saw, some few days ago, an interview with McKellen where he said something aboot spending a lot of time online and enjoying reading fans posts.
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> So, Sir Ian, if you monitor this particular board… Howdy! 🙂 \*\*

I know Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan were alerted by fellow cast members to the proliferation of slash fiction on the internet revolving around their characters. I remember seeing a picture taken after FoTR was released where they were shown either a digitally modified or painted version of them making out together. Billy looked like he was gonna wet himself and I think they made a comment about it somewhere… how they would totally hook up with each other if possible. Anyway, sorry I think some of my wet dreams leaked their way in there.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/93 "2004-01-05T03:56:26Z")

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What about that vision Arwen had of her young son running over to Aragorn? Anyone notice that Care Bear the kid was carrying?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/94 "2004-01-05T08:08:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elfkin477 \*  
> **Was anyone else a little weirded out during the crowning scene when Rafiki declared "Da king has returned!"**

I was peeing in my empty popcorn bucket at this point, because I heard this line differently. I thought the speaker was the guy in the centurion outfit, and I thought he said, “Truly, he wuz da son a Gawd.”

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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/95 "2004-01-05T08:16:25Z")

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No, but one of the Oliphaunts had a Kilroy painted on him. Anachronistic as all get out, but fitting.

Other errors I noticed:

Gandalf clinking beer bottles together and chanting “Sauron, come out and play-ay!”

Denethor shouting “Run away!” as cows are hurled into the streets of Gondor.

Treebeard had a woodpecker in the most unfortunate place…

Ash leading the charge of the Dead from the ship in his Deathmobile.

And the most glaring error?

Sauron hiring Bill Murray to plant plastic explosives all over Mordor to get rid of a couple of nassssty hobbitses.

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**Author:** ![A\_wizard\_song\_for\_thee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@A\_wizard\_song\_for\_thee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_wizard_song_for_thee)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/96 "2004-01-05T08:49:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Horseflesh \*  
> \*\*Treebeard had a woodpecker in the most unfortunate place…  
> \*\*

Er, I don’t think Treebeard would want his pecker anywhere else (so sorry, couldn’t resist)…

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/97 "2004-01-05T16:11:58Z")

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Well, my personal favorite change was when Elrond was waiting in Hobbiton for Frodo to get back and went, like, "Mr. Baggins welcome back… we’ve _missed_ you. I didn’t recall Frodo shooting ki blasts at Elrond after that, from the books I mean. Might have been an off-reference in the appendix. And I did think it was a bit much when Sam fired his Destructo Disk at Galadriel.

I was glad to see they all made up and went to fight Frieza alter.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/98 "2004-01-05T16:23:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MacTech \*  
> \*\*i just watched it again tonight, and i’m pretty sure i saw a Snowspeeder in the battle against the Oliphants.
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Actually, I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that part was remincisicnet of the battle of hoth.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/99 "2004-01-05T18:15:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Horseflesh \*  
> **Treebeard had a woodpecker in the most unfortunate place…**

He was just happy to see Pippin.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2004, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-else-catch-this-in-rotk/220891/100 "2004-01-05T18:30:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> \*\*He was just happy to see Pippin. \*\*

What’s its gots in its pocketses?

Fat, nasty hobbitses!

I thought it was odd that, at the end, as the ring was about to burn up, and the writing again became visible, it clearly read _ **Rosebud** _.

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