# Did anyone related to the Clintons ever have their place raided by the cops/FBI? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 10, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212 "2017-08-10T00:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/1 "2017-08-10T00:36:33Z")
The Clintons were investigated numerous times for numerous things (fairly or not as your political leaning tells you). But **factually** , was the home or offices of anyone associated with the Clintons ever raided by the police or FBI? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/2 "2017-08-10T01:04:35Z")
Anthony Weiner comes immediately to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/3 "2017-08-10T01:27:09Z")
I’ve never heard of either Clinton being seriously accused of crimes, which is what it would take to be raided. Unbelievable stupidities on her part, and avariciousness on both parts; but those are not criminal. A number of their friends seem to have committed what may be considered crimes in some jurisdictions, such as their daughter’s father-in-law, but that’s not their fault. We all have known some dodgy people. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/4 "2017-08-10T02:10:18Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The Clintons were investigated numerous times for numerous things (fairly or not as your political leaning tells you). But **factually** , was the home or offices of anyone associated with the Clintons ever raided by the police or FBI? Yes. Webster Hubbel, to pick one example. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/5 "2017-08-10T02:49:51Z")
Not having heard of him, I looked the gentleman up: > **[Webster Hubbell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Hubbell)** > > Webster Lee "Webb" Hubbell (born January 18, 1948) is a former United States Associate Attorney General from 1993 to 1994 who as part of the Whitewater controversy pled guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of failing to disclose a conflict of interest, and was sentenced to 21 months. > Born and raised in Little Rock, Arkansas, Webster Hubbell was a three-sport letterman at Hall High School. He attended the University of Arkansas on a football scholarship where he played offensive tack... He was in the same law firm as Hillary, and once in he was in their Justice Department. Whilst\* in situ\* he was then separately indicted and sentenced for over-billing clients in private practice. With all the ill-will in the world, I can’t see how the Clintons are concerned in that. The ludicrous Mr. Starr pursued him to extort rare Clinton secrets, but in the end Mr. Hubbell plea-bargained and accepted a year’s probation for a conflict of interest in private practice in return for never having to look at Mr. Starr ever again. Again only tangentially related to the Clintons. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/6 "2017-08-10T07:58:39Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The Clintons were investigated numerous times for numerous things (fairly or not as your political leaning tells you). I protest this assumption. I am a strong supporter of both Clintons politically (let’s say for 80% of their policies/actions over 25 years), yet I think some of the investigations against one or both of them were legitimate. In other words, one should be able keep these matters separate. I’m far from perfect at this, but please let’s not perpetuate the sad notion that we shouldn’t at least try to achieve that ideal as best we can. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/7 "2017-08-10T10:13:50Z")
15 people were convicted for Whitewater. I’m not sure how easy it would be find out if if anoffice raid was part of the investigation on any of them since it was pre-Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/8 "2017-08-10T17:47:23Z")
And lest we forget, Bill Clinton was brought up on impeachment proceedings while President, which is pretty much a Congressional version of a trial. He was ultimately acquitted by the Senate. Again, not sure what all the investigation entailed, and whether there were any raids by the FBI or any other agencies. Actually, when they say “FBI Raid”, what does that even mean here? I imagine somewhere between helicopters and snipers providing overwatch while armor-clad agents kick the doors in and shout “FBI! ON THE FLOOR NOW!” and a couple of agents in slacks and polo shirts politely ringing the door bell at the time they worked out in advance when making their appointment. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/9 "2017-08-10T18:28:40Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > Again only tangentially related to the Clintons. The question I answered refered to “…anyone associated with the Clintons.” Hubbel was Clinton’s appointment to the position of Chief Justice of the Arkansas Supreme Court while Clinton was governor. After Clinton’s victory, he was a top mover in the Clinton transition team, and served as lead counsel to the team. He was a front-runner for AG, although the job ultimately went to Janet Reno, but served under her as Associate Attorney General when Clinton became President. In my view, that’s enough to qualify as “…anyone associated with the Clintons.” ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/10 "2017-08-10T19:35:24Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Anthony Weiner comes immediately to mind. The investigation into Weiner had nothing directly to do with the Clintons though. It just so happens his wife worked for Hillary, but the Weiner investigation and the Hillary investigation were two separate critters. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/11 "2017-08-10T19:55:45Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > The investigation into Weiner had nothing directly to do with the Clintons though. It just so happens his wife worked for Hillary, but the Weiner investigation and the Hillary investigation were two separate critters. Was he associated with the Clintons? He didn’t work for them, sure. But law enforcement agencies raided his apartment which was also the apartment of Hillary’s top aide. And he was at the center of the bombshell letter about the Clinton investigation being reopened, which probably had a significance on the election. And Bill Clinton officiated his wedding, BTW. Since the OP has an obvious tie to the FBI raiding Manafort’s home, it is worth noting that we don’t know what they were looking for. It could be for matters relating to before Manfort’s employment with Trump, during his tenure, or after it. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/12 "2017-08-10T20:09:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > The question I answered refered to “…anyone associated with the Clintons.” Hubbel was Clinton’s appointment to the position of Chief Justice of the Arkansas Supreme Court while Clinton was governor. > > After Clinton’s victory, he was a top mover in the Clinton transition team, and served as lead counsel to the team. He was a front-runner for AG, although the job ultimately went to Janet Reno, but served under her as Associate Attorney General when Clinton became President. > > In my view, that’s enough to qualify as “…anyone associated with the Clintons.” I would read it as ‘ **anyone associated with the Clintons political life** ’. The pair were lawyers, lawyers in America _inevitably_ have crooked clients, colleagues \*, and friends. That does not mean lawyers running for office have any tangible connection with such people’s roguery. To suggest the Clintons are associated if their much-beloved gardener is taken for smoking weed is paltering with the meaning of associated. And for **Raguleader** ’s post, I doubt any agency would hit the Oval Office to drag out the president kicking and screaming, even if as at present, it appears to be some fantasists’ most fervent wish. - There is a remarkably specific difficulty to looking up the numbers of crook lawyers on Google, because all the terms are naturally associated with lawyers’ normal work. Like illegal, crime, criminal, blackmail etc. etc. Some cases are shown, rather like this amusing fellow who **[hypnotized](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/15/ohio-lawyer-hypnotized-six-female-clients-then-he-molested-them/)** lady clients and paid the price \*\* ; but solid numbers of those disbarred or in prison etc., even as percentages, are hard to find. And in **[Wisconsin](http://archive.jsonline.com/watchdog/114879194.html/)** 135 convicted lawyers still practice, having been forgiven + 70 who plea-bargained; but it would be wearisome to add up every state’s legal practicing criminals plus all those struck off plus all those uncaught. The point is the legal profession is a high risk business, and a lawyer such as Bill, no matter how strong his personal ethics and painful his rectitude, would have to work with some very odd birds indeed. In Britain most bent lawyers seem to be caught for embezzling client funds. \*\* _…many of them sounding like rules, such as “You are free to touch yourself,” or commands such as, “You are going to feel such attraction and arousal and excitement that you are going to demand that I touch you and you touch me.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/13 "2017-08-10T20:12:34Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And Bill Clinton officiated his wedding, BTW. > . I know we can’t all get the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury, but you can go too far the other way. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/14 "2017-08-10T22:41:04Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > I know we can’t all get the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury, but you can go too far the other way. It does remind me of the time my then-future mother in law invited President Obama to our wedding. She didn’t (and doesn’t) like Obama in the slightest, but you bet your keister that her daughter’s wedding rated an appearance by POTUS. He sent us a (possibly open-form) letter congratulating us on our special occasion and apologizing for not being able to make it. In his defense, we only gave him a couple of month’s heads-up. ---
**Author:** ![Falchion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Falchion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falchion)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/15 "2017-08-11T00:04:31Z")
Sandy Berger (National Security Adviser) had his home and office searched by the FBI. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/16 "2017-08-11T00:29:12Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > I would read it as ‘ **anyone associated with the Clintons political life** ’. Anyone investigated as a component of the Clinton investigations was what I intended in my OP. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/17 "2017-08-11T01:47:45Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > I would read it as ‘ **anyone associated with the Clintons political life** ’. > > The pair were lawyers, lawyers in America _inevitably_ have crooked clients, colleagues \*, and friends. That does not mean lawyers running for office have any tangible connection with such people’s roguery. To suggest the Clintons are associated if their much-beloved gardener is taken for smoking weed is paltering with the meaning of associated. > > . > . > . > The point is the legal profession is a high risk business, and a lawyer such as Bill, no matter how strong his personal ethics and painful his rectitude, would have to work with some very odd birds indeed. That’s a great defense if I had offered up a Clinton law client. This was a colleague, repeatedly appointed to high posts by Mr. Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/18 "2017-08-11T03:13:14Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > 15 people were convicted for Whitewater. I’m not sure how easy it would be find out if if anoffice raid was part of the investigation on any of them since it was pre-Internet. It never happened during the Whitewater investigations, according to Paul Begala (former Bill Clinton presidential adviser and current CNN talking head) on Anderson Cooper 360 last night. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/19 "2017-08-11T12:35:26Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Since the OP has an obvious tie to the FBI raiding Manafort’s home, it is worth noting that we don’t know what they were looking for. It could be for matters relating to before Manfort’s employment with Trump, during his tenure, or after it. According to the WaPo, which broke the story, the raid on Manafort’s home was related to the Russia investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212/20 "2017-08-11T12:55:35Z")
> [@skdo23](#): > > According to the WaPo, which broke the story, the raid on Manafort’s home was related to the Russia investigation. Yes, related to the Russia investigation, but as the Post reported: “Manafort has been under increasing pressure as the Mueller team looked into his personal finances and his professional career as a highly paid foreign political consultant. . . . The search warrant requested documents related to tax, banking and other matters. . . … Manafort’s allies fear that Mueller hopes to build a case against Manafort unrelated to the 2016 campaign, in hopes that he would provide information against others in Trump’s inner circle in exchange for lessening his legal exposure.” (There may be a paywall on the link below) > **[FBI conducted raid of former Trump campaign chairman Manafort’s home](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-conducted-predawn-raid-of-former-trump-campaign-chairman-manaforts-home/2017/08/09/5879fa9c-7c45-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html)** > > The search warrant, carried out July 26, shows newly aggressive techniques by the special counsel. Again, we don’t know if the search relates to things Manafort may have done before his time on the Trump campaign, during, or after. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-related-to-the-clintons-ever-have-their-place-raided-by-the-cops-fbi/793212.md?page=2)