# Did anyone see Trump on "60 Minutes"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 14, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939 "2016-11-14T06:07:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/21 "2016-11-14T23:29:54Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Well, he’s a con man through and through, so consider yourself suckered. Roe v Wade is settled law, and he didn’t say he was going after that decision directly. Instead, he wants abortion left up to the states, which basically means they can shut down abortion clinics until lawyers can sue and get the state laws repealed. You seem to live in an alternate universe, where “settled” means “rammed down the country’s throat by an activist SCOTUS.” ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/22 "2016-11-14T23:31:19Z")
I thought a majority of Americans wanted Roe v Wade overturned? Liberals still want it?? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/23 "2016-11-14T23:33:11Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > You seem to live in an alternate universe, where “settled” means “rammed down the country’s throat by an activist SCOTUS.” Much the same as Hobby Lobby and Citizen’s United? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/24 "2016-11-14T23:41:29Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Interesting fact: humans can only go 4 days without water but up to 3 weeks without an abortion. Please interpret. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/25 "2016-11-14T23:50:44Z")
> [@WildBlueYonder](#): > > I thought a majority of Americans wanted Roe v Wade overturned? > > Liberals still want it?? Liberals, independents and some Republicans This is from 2013 > [@](#): > > Forty years after the Supreme Court legalized abortion in its Roe v. Wade decision, seven out of 10 Americans support the groundbreaking rulings, according to a poll released Tuesday. > > The Wall Street Journal/NBC poll found only 24 percent of Americans would overturn the decision, which legalized abortion throughout the United States. The 70 percent level of support for the ruling is the highest since the poll began tracking it in 1989. Similarly, the 54 percent of Americans who believe abortion should be legal most or all of the time is a record high. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/26 "2016-11-15T00:27:01Z")
> [@](#): > > …seven out of 10 Americans support the groundbreaking rulings, according to a poll released Tuesday. Same pollsters who predicted Hillary would win last Tuesday, I’d wager. Besides, you can cherry-pick statistics to mean anything. Four out of five people know that. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/27 "2016-11-15T00:34:55Z")
I’m not a lawyer, but I remember enough from my US Government classes to know there are reasons to be against Roe v Wade except being pro-life. It’s considered by a lot of legal-type people to be an awful decision where the opinion writer just pulled completely nonsensical dicta out of their asses like “trimesters”. But for most people we just think of “Roe v Wade” as code for “pro-choice protection” and support/oppose it based on that, but you could conceivably be against Roe v Wade, but believe that abortions should have protections (whether it by by another stronger, more sane court decision or left to the legislature). ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/28 "2016-11-15T00:41:32Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Well, he’s a con man through and through, so consider yourself suckered. Roe v Wade is settled law, and he didn’t say he was going after that decision directly. Instead, he wants abortion left up to the states, which basically means they can shut down abortion clinics until lawyers can sue and get the state laws repealed. Except that Roe v. Wade explicitly laid out a U.S. constitutional right to privacy that extended to cover the right to have an abortion. So, federal (or state) courts would simply issue an emergency injunction following any suit being brought that would halt any enforcement of a state law, likely ahead of time, that unduly or unreasonably limited the right to an abortion. Well before Trump, states have tried to close abortion clinics through lateral attacks that required doctors to have admitting privileges in nearby hospitals or in requiring clinics to have facilities equivalent to hospitals. Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, a 5-3 Supreme Court decision that came out a few months ago, ruled that these were unconstitutional. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/29 "2016-11-15T00:51:01Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I’m not a lawyer, but I remember enough from my US Government classes to know there are reasons to be against Roe v Wade except being pro-life. It’s considered by a lot of legal-type people to be an awful decision where the opinion writer just pulled completely nonsensical dicta out of their asses like “trimesters”. But for most people we just think of “Roe v Wade” as code for “pro-choice protection” and support/oppose it based on that, but you could conceivably be against Roe v Wade, but believe that abortions should have protections (whether it by by another stronger, more sane court decision or left to the legislature). The trimester system of determining a fetus’ viability is not dicta, since dicta is generally philosophizing that are the individual judge or justice’s views that don’t have any precedental/binding value. The trimester system was still used for years after Roe v. Wade until it was discarded by Planned Parenthood v. Casey, another Supreme Court case, in 1992. That case established that fetal viability was the ultimate threshold and that the trimester measurement system was not adequate in and of itself to determine this. There have been around half a dozen fairly big abortion-related Supreme Court cases since Roe v. Wade. All of them explicitly or implicitly agreed with Roe’s premise that there is a U.S. constitutional right for a woman to have an abortion. Overturning Roe means overturning all of those cases too. The legally dubious part of Roe was Justice Blackmun’s (the opinion’s author) invention of a federal constitutional right to privacy in the first place, of which a right to an abortion was part and parcel of, which he justified as being implied from some of the other enumerated rights in the Bill of Rights. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/30 "2016-11-15T00:57:40Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Same pollsters who predicted Hillary would win last Tuesday, I’d wager. > > Besides, you can cherry-pick statistics to mean anything. Four out of five people know that. Okay, fine. Then how do you make any claims whatsoever on what “the American people” want? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/31 "2016-11-15T01:03:58Z")
Its complicated, only really smart people understand it. For instance, if you get a _lot_ less than half of the votes, you lose. However, if you get _almos_t half of the votes, that’s the “will of the people”, and a “mandate”. I would explain if I could, but I’m not that smart. It has something to do with the World Series. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/32 "2016-11-15T01:50:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Did you notice the part where she asked him if he regretted any of the things he said? And he said, no, because he won? Is this the standard of behavior and morality you want to stress? It’s the [lesson we got from Senator Reid last election](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/31/harry-reid-no-regrets-for-mccarthyite-lie-about-mitt-romneys-taxes/). ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/33 "2016-11-15T01:54:22Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It’s settled law until a future court unsettles it. Yup. You liberals and the word “settled”. “[I do not think it means what you think it means](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk)” ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/34 "2016-11-15T02:07:43Z")
I thought Trump sounded less crazy and more coherent than he usually does. Of course, he had his nutty moments like repeating that he knows more about defeating ISIS than the generals. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/35 "2016-11-15T02:08:19Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > You seem to live in an alternate universe, where “settled” means “rammed down the country’s throat by an activist SCOTUS.” Christ you people are tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![doubleminus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@doubleminus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doubleminus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/36 "2016-11-15T02:14:07Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Yes, and he immediately retracted it. At least he’s honest. Oh, Krugman starts to be pathetic. Remember [this](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/09/08/why-donald-trump-is-right-according-to-paul-krugman/) ? It’s from Sep. 2015. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/37 "2016-11-15T06:47:50Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It’s the [lesson we got from Senator Reid last election](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/31/harry-reid-no-regrets-for-mccarthyite-lie-about-mitt-romneys-taxes/). Got anything where Reid suggests that he would instruct the military to attack the families of our enemies? Reid saying he would grab someone by the pussy? Reid ever offer to pay the legal bills of someone who committed assault on his behalf? “Bleeding from her whatever”, that was Reid? Who are you kidding? ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/38 "2016-11-15T08:57:21Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Christ you people are tiresome. I couldn’t have said it better myself. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/39 "2016-11-15T10:14:10Z")
He stooged a lot. He’s in the Clinton’s back pocket & has been for awhile. Even the alt-right is waking up to this reality, which was in the realm of pure conspiracy until recently. Everyone was trolled by the Man of Drumpfft, who would bring the Adrioning. The quatrain: “City by lake will celebrate, man of Drumpfft, will stooge before the final chant, thus the Adrioning” City by lake will celebrate = Cubs win world series man of Drumpfft = Trump stooge before final chant = He’s obviously been stooging, the final chant means last election the Adrioning = possibly world war 3, or a reference to King Hadrion’s wall. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939/40 "2016-11-15T10:15:59Z")
Another quatrain: Reign of Drumpfft, shall bring wall, if no stall, the modern Adrioning, Trump’s reign will bring a wall, assuming there is no delay by the electoral college. The wall will be based off King Hadrion’s wall, assuming it gets built. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-trump-on-60-minutes/771939.md?page=3)