# Did anyone see what Falwell said? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 15, 2001, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760 "2001-09-15T03:50:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/1 "2001-09-15T03:50:20Z")
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html) I hope this destroys him. ---
**Author:** ![Totoro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Totoro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Totoro)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/2 "2001-09-15T03:54:09Z")
I hope the finger of god comes out of the heavens to smite him personally. I’d like to see a pit thread for this, actually, because I’d like to tear him a new one. Actually, scratch that, I’ll track him down and do it to his face. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/3 "2001-09-15T03:54:56Z")
Ah, yes. My mother, good Christian that she is, is mortified. BTW. [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87062). And [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87105) you can say what you _really_ want about it. ---
**Author:** ![Philosophocles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@Philosophocles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philosophocles)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/4 "2001-09-15T04:03:14Z")
Jerry Falwell’s public life seems to follow the pattern: 1. Say something wildly, insanely offensive. 2. Act civil for a while until the original controversy has gotten kind of old. 3. People start to forget your past foibles. 4. The media begins to seek you out again as a semi-rational voice of the “Religious Right”. 5. Repeat Steps 1 through 4 all over again. Lather and rinse. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bitterdrunk\_Kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@The\_Bitterdrunk\_Kid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bitterdrunk_Kid)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/5 "2001-09-15T23:57:19Z")
I can’t believe he said something like that. I wish this country was more religious than it is right now, but to say that this was the reason for the attacks is horrible and very counter-productive. I am a very conservative Christian myself, and it really saddens me to hear Christians say things like this. It destroys any respect non-Christians have for Christians. The reason for the attack was that these groups of terrorists hate the United States because we have a very important thing that they don’t have: freedom. I hope nobody takes these foolish remarks as the voice of Christianity, because most Christians, even conservative Christians, do NOT feel this way. ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/6 "2001-09-16T00:04:52Z")
Yep, there’s a Pit thread. I think there’s two, in fact. Maybe more. Sigh. He’s such a loser. ---
**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/7 "2001-09-16T00:47:16Z")
Such incredible ignorance, it boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/8 "2001-09-16T01:04:00Z")
A [GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87237) about Falwell’s remarks. A [Pit thread that started as a GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87062) about them. And another [Pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87105) on the topic. Can’t forget that Pat Robertson agreed with Falwell all the way. If mainstream black leaders are expected to disassociate themselves from Louis Farrakhan, why aren’t mainstream evangelical leaders expected to do the same with Falwell? The guy’s only said stuff in the past like: Clinton had a bunch of people killed; the reporters who uncovered Jim & Tammy Bakker’s financial misdeeds did so “because they hate Christ” (I heard him say this one in person); and I’m sure others can add to the list. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/9 "2001-09-16T01:12:23Z")
For your “enjoyment” in the Pit: [Robertson + Falwell: It’s the Liberals’ Fault . . .](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87062) [Jerry Fallwell on WTC](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87105) [Pat Robertson joins the fray](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87163) And for fans of Fred Phelps: [The worst case of agenda pushing yet](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87018) ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/10 "2001-09-16T02:56:10Z")
Note to self: Wait one hour after eating before reading threads discussing Falwell, Robertson, and/or Phelps. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/11 "2001-09-16T03:04:25Z")
> [@](#): > > 21 > "Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ > 23 > Then I will tell them plainly, `I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ I almost wish that the Christians were right about judgement day, just to see these two hoist on their own petard. Not to mention Fred Phelps. ---
**Author:** ![irkenDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c2a13f/32.png) [@irkenDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irkenDoom)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/12 "2001-09-16T03:28:15Z")
check out [http://www.falwell.com](http://www.falwell.com) yum. crow. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/13 "2001-09-16T03:51:43Z")
“I sincerely regret that comments I made during a long theological discussion on a Christian television program yesterday were taken out of their context” Yeah, right. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/14 "2001-09-16T03:56:49Z")
Where did you see crow in that web page? What I saw looked a lot like “I’m really sorry that I got caught saying stupid things, but you have to understand I was quoted out of context (despite the fact that the entire show’s transcript was made available). Please don’t pick on me (and can I distract you with some more of my knick knacks?).” “Long theological discussion”? It was a typical, content-free bitch session couched in the language of shallow pseudo-Christian platitudes with all the theological content of an issue of Reader’s Digest©. ---
**Author:** ![irkenDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c2a13f/32.png) [@irkenDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irkenDoom)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/15 "2001-09-16T03:58:06Z")
he just doesn’t wanna be lynched, ironically enough. ---
**Author:** ![Cyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyn)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/16 "2001-09-16T04:04:10Z")
Hate helped ‘this’ happen and Jerry has plenty of that. He should up his med dosage until the voices in his head that he thinks are God go to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![irkenDoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c2a13f/32.png) [@irkenDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irkenDoom)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/17 "2001-09-16T04:16:20Z")
it may not totally be crow, sure. but he’s still running away with his tail between his legs, the filthy mongrel. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/18 "2001-09-16T04:44:44Z")
All the advocates and pundits of hatred shall run, and keep on running away from all decent people, for the rest of time. For America and her allies will never rest until all of hatred is removed from people’s hearts. ---
**Author:** ![Joaquim\_Matilda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@Joaquim\_Matilda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joaquim_Matilda)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-see-what-falwell-said/81760/19 "2001-09-16T05:05:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Bitterdrunk Kid \* > \*\*I can’t believe he said something like that. I wish this country was more religious than it is right now, but to say that this was the reason for the attacks is horrible and very counter-productive. I am a very conservative Christian myself, and it really saddens me to hear Christians say things like this. It destroys any respect non-Christians have for Christians. The reason for the attack was that these groups of terrorists hate the United States because we have a very important thing that they don’t have: freedom. I hope nobody takes these foolish remarks as the voice of Christianity, because most Christians, even conservative Christians, do NOT feel this way. \*\* What you’ve said is true of the overwhelming majorities of Muslimd, Jews, and others. None of “us” has a better claim on or to righteousness. The way I’ve always seen it, to the extent we pray, worship and practice, it’s to the same god, God, by whatever name he is called and whoever his prophets and disciples are. There are differences in degree, names and characterizations but in the long run it’s good, evil, morality, and so forth.