# Did anyone watch the Emmys?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 20, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150 "2004-09-20T16:39:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/21 "2004-09-21T14:49:22Z")

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> [@Tiramisu](#):
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> I also get annoyed when I see people win year after year who really just keep doing the same thing and it isn’t all that special.

In a nutshell, that’s what’s wrong with the Emmys. Outside the mini-series awards, it’s hard to tell one year from another. And that’s why the answer to the question in the thread title is: [“apparently not”](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=797&e=3&u=/eo/20040920/en_tv_eo/14969) .

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/22 "2004-09-21T18:09:14Z")

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I loved the bit with Shandling, Duchovny, and the ping pong paddle. Also, John Ritter wouldn’t have won since he died before last years show.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/23 "2004-09-21T19:37:32Z")

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> [@Rysler](#):
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> I don’t understand your logic. Peter Boyle’s been doing the exact same joke for 8 years. Why should he win over Kelsey Grammar?
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> Unless you think the one-dimensional characters should all take turns winning? 😃

Well, in all fairness, Boyle’s been doing a terrific job for that long without winning once, so one might argue he’s “due”. But Kelsey had three already–could it have hurt a little to share the wealth?

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/24 "2004-09-22T00:40:32Z")

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> [@Rysler](#):
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> I don’t understand your logic. Peter Boyle’s been doing the exact same joke for 8 years. Why should he win over Kelsey Grammar?
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> Unless you think the one-dimensional characters should all take turns winning? 😃

Yes, however Kelsey Grammer and Peter Boyle were not in direct competition. Boyle was in the same category as David Hyde Pierce who’s won a few times. Boyle is the only one who hasn’t won at least once on his show. I don’t watch Everybody Loves Raymond religiously but I’ve seen a lot of the reruns and Boyle’s character may be a one joke wonder most of the time but every so often you see a different side. Anyway, Peter Boyle is a great actor with a lot of range and versatility, so we know he’s actually acting when he plays that role.

Besides, Young Frankenstein is one of my favorite movies so I just happen to love Peter Boyle.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/25 "2004-09-22T00:42:07Z")

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I was kinda hopin’ for James Arness to show up and kick Kelsey’s ass.

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**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/26 "2004-09-22T14:31:28Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> Also, John Ritter wouldn’t have won since he died before last years show.

Then how could he be nominated? (Color me confused?)

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/27 "2004-09-22T14:37:03Z")

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> [@annieclaus](#):
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> Then how could he be nominated? (Color me confused?)

Ya know your’re right. How did he get nominated for the 2004 awards. I’m confused.

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**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/28 "2004-09-22T14:52:46Z")

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2003 Nominations Announced: July 17, 2003  
John Ritter’s Death: September 11, 2003  
2003 Emmys: Sept 21, 2003

Polls were closed. Voting had ended. Episodes of **8 Simple Rules** with John Ritter had already been made for the 2003-2004 season. Remember, he died on set, not during the shooting hiatus. Those episodes, which aired after July 17th, were eligible.

This does explain why John Ritter wasn’t in the death montage, which I found odd. But I’m still pissed about them leaving out [Kevin Smith](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808963/), so I’d shrugged it off.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/29 "2004-09-22T14:56:18Z")

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> [@Rysler](#):
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> 2003 Nominations Announced: July 17, 2003  
> John Ritter’s Death: September 11, 2003  
> 2003 Emmys: Sept 21, 2003
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> Polls were closed. Voting had ended. Episodes of **8 Simple Rules** with John Ritter had already been made for the 2003-2004 season. Remember, he died on set, not during the shooting hiatus. Those episodes, which aired after July 17th, were eligible.
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> This does explain why John Ritter wasn’t in the death montage, which I found odd. But I’m still pissed about them leaving out [Kevin Smith](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808963/), so I’d shrugged it off.

I was confusing the winning of an award with being included in the memorial tribute. His memorial tribute would have been last year, his award this year.  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/30 "2004-09-22T15:05:39Z")

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> [@Rysler](#):
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> Polls were closed. Voting had ended. Episodes of **8 Simple Rules** with John Ritter had already been made for the 2003-2004 season. Remember, he died on set, not during the shooting hiatus. Those episodes, which aired after July 17th, were eligible.

Thank you, kind Rysler. I am confused no longer.

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**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-the-emmys/265150/31 "2004-09-22T15:17:44Z")

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> [@honey](#):
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> I was confusing the winning of an award with being included in the memorial tribute

No worries. I also found that divide disturbing.

> [@annieclaus](#):
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> Thank you, kind Rysler. I am confused no longer.

You’re welcome. I am pleased at the opportunity to use my powers for good.

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