# Did Bush Admit to Lying about WMD in Iraq? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 25, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194 "2003-04-25T21:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/141 "2003-05-07T23:38:26Z")
Even giving the Bush Administration the benefit of a doubt, assuming the truck really is a mobile weapons lab, who wants to convince the world that invading a soverign nation and overthrowing a government was justified by **one** truck? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/142 "2003-05-07T23:42:10Z")
Yoghurt production facility. All the admin’s "proof"so far has been bullshit. If this is any different, it’s up to them to provide some _real_ evidence. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/143 "2003-05-08T01:19:34Z")
Oh, I didn’t mean _you_, **Beagle**. I meant like, you know, _dumb_ guys that believe anything the Bushista’s dish out. You know. _Those_ guys. ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/144 "2003-05-08T02:49:16Z")
Some good and interesting links listed by **akrako1** about 6 posts above me. Thing is, though, if we remember back, the Agencies to whom the task of assessing any potential threat from WMD falls all agreed there was none from Iraq; the CIA, NSA, MI6 and both US and UK military – this is a matter of, before the fact, public record. And the view of these agencies were supported by people like Scott Ritter (seven years in Iraq in UNSCOM). The WMD malarkey is just a more blatant lie than Bush’s intentional (and successful) blurring of the boundaries between 9/11 and Saddam. The real question, for me, is how and why the public bought the lies given the weight of expert evidence to the contrary ? – at this point, I can’t see beyond the media, as well as some residual 9/11 stuff … _you can fool all of the people some of the time …_. Some interesting lessons to be learned in all of this about democracy, the media and ‘leadership’. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/145 "2003-05-08T03:09:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\*Oh, I didn’t mean _you_, **Beagle**. I meant like, you know, _dumb_ guys that believe anything the Bushista’s dish out. You know. _Those_ guys. \*\* Sarcameter pegged… Losing altitude… This is a classic case of killing the messenger. I think this whole WMD thing is wonderful theatre. I’ve heard stories placing them in Syria and [Lebanon](http://www.debka.com/). > [@](#): > > Syria is reported by DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources as having secretly disposed of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction by moving them into eastern Lebanon for burial in the Beqaa Valley. Iraq’s biological weapons may be there too. They were interred deep under the heroin poppy and cotton fields in two of the most fertile regions of Lebanon: the valley stretching between Jabal Akroum, the town of al Qbayyat and the Syrian border, and the land lying between the towns of Al Hirmil and al Labwah between the Orontes River and the Syrian frontier. I’m pretty sure that they are hidden in the Holy Grail. ---
**Author:** ![rsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsa)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/146 "2003-05-08T17:18:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Beagle \* > It did seem topical, another WMD sighting. Sure, they’ve all been media hype so far. But, that’s another reason to post the links, to ridicule the various media outlets when they screw up. The DoD has been careful about these things by comparison. Not picking on you **Beagle** , but I hear this attitude a lot about media hype. I agree that the highest people in the Pentagon have been careful in their statements on the existence of WMD. However, they have also been very cavalier about allowing officers in the field and Pentagon “sources” to damn near absolutely confirm the existence of WMD at a number of sites. These are not cases of embedded reporters talking to some grunt about his uninformed opinion; “Yep, we don’t see these things in Kansas. My momma didn’t raise no fool, this is the real McCoy.” The media “hype” is coming from interviews with officers, many of whom specialize in testing for WMD. In fact one report came from a field _general_. Should the media just refuse to report anything that doesn’t come out of the mouth of Rumsfield? Seems to me like the DoD is having their cake and eating it too since the subsequent reports on the false positives receives very little media attention. ---
**Author:** ![rsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsa)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/147 "2003-05-08T17:22:04Z")
I forgot to add that the Pentagon brass could easily issue an order requiring all inquiries about WMD testing to be referred to the Pentagon press office or CinCom. ---
**Author:** ![akrako1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@akrako1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akrako1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194/148 "2003-05-08T20:34:49Z")
Just to further show how distorted the official view is, and how far from reality it really is, here’s a wonderful news story: Judge rules Saddam, bin Laden must pay Sept. 11 families [http://www.suntimes.com/output/terror/cst-nws-attack08.html](http://www.suntimes.com/output/terror/cst-nws-attack08.html) Eh, Saddam must pay?? I seem to remember our intelligence agencies working overtime for months under intense pressure from the Bush cabal to establish ANY solid link between betweek Al-Queda and Iraq. They never found a real one. Lots of vague, unsubstantiated reports doesn’t quite do it for me. Like the WMD’s, now that were there, shouldn’t we be swimming in proof? Even more surprising, I’ll hear it on the street - of course from the pro-War crowd, “But, Saddam took down our towers!!” - they’ll plea. God, how do you even address someone that’s at that point? Not only do they probably believe anything that the administration tells them, but they make these blind jumps of logic based on no facts at all. But of course, that’s what the admin. wants - opinions based on fear and misinformation. I’ll be very sad to hear in 20 years that sentiment is that Iraq attacked us. History is already being perverted and it isn’t even history yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-bush-admit-to-lying-about-wmd-in-iraq/171194.md?page=7)