# Did Christie (or his staff) intentionally cause the Fort Lee traffic jam? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 9, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351 "2014-01-09T13:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1041 "2014-03-24T14:24:28Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > So, **Doorhinge** , do you have any theory as to why _Kelly_ did what she did? Or is just “assholes” all the way down? (But never up!) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1042 "2014-03-24T14:26:04Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > “_Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee_,” > > I agree that Kelly’s email was, most likely, a signal to Port Authority’s Wildstein. Kelly and Port Authority’s Wildstein understood what it meant. I don’t. Federal investigators should offer Kelly a deal and find out what the message actually did mean. Before the political persecution committee screws up the criminal investigation any more than it already has. > > Was the phrase, “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee,” an order to Port Authority"s Wildstein? Or was it a _one if by land, two if by sea_ kind of message that Port Authority’s Wildstein had requested Kelly to supply when the time was right? > > What is the name of “that Fort Lee development”? The media doesn’t seem to have thought that identifying the development was as important as creating a 3rd reason to justify the unverified _Christie punished Sokolich_ rumor. > > And those unverified rumors actually contradict each other. - _Sokolich didn’t support Christie. That’s the reason, no wait, ignore the first rumor, we have a second, better rumor, but wait there’s more, we created a 3rd rumor. Look. The evidence is mounting._ :smack: I don’t see how the legislative committee is undermining the federal investigation. I have faith that the feds will grant immunity with all due caution so that we find out exactly how high the orders originated. If indeed Briget Kelly is the highest official in the chain, don’t offer her immunity. If she can sing and name someone higher, then let’s listen to her song. I think it’s very likely that the traffic gridlock was planned well in advance and that Kelly’s email was just the signal that they had the go-ahead for the plan. Either Kelly felt empowered to authorize it herself or she was told by her boss, the chief of staff, or his boss, the governor. We won’t know the motivation until somebody talks. We can speculate, but it neither builds nor undermines the case. Again, the traffic jam is the least of Christie’s worries. Shaking down the Hoboken mayor, using witholding of federal disaster funds as blackmail, that’s where the real action is going to be. Then there’s the matter of Christie appointee David Samson, who is going down for the parking lot scam where he lowered the rental for the parking lot property to $1 per year in exhange for millions in legal fees for his law firm. Let the feds do their work, let the legislature do their investigation. Right now, I give Christie a much better chance of taking up residence in a federal pen than I do of him moving into the Oval Office. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1043 "2014-03-24T15:38:19Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t see how the legislative committee is undermining the federal investigation. I have faith that the feds will grant immunity with all due caution so that we find out exactly how high the orders originated. If indeed Briget Kelly is the highest official in the chain, don’t offer her immunity. If she can sing and name someone higher, then let’s listen to her song. I believe the legislative committee errored when it pushed the 5th Amendment issue into court. If the court rules that Kelly and Stepien do not have to provide self-incriminating evidence of something the legislative committee only imagines exists, and I believe it will, it could prove more difficult for the federal investigation to break the 5th Amendment defense. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1044 "2014-03-24T16:02:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > …I think it’s very likely that the traffic gridlock was planned well in advance and that Kelly’s email was just the signal that they had the go-ahead for the plan. Either Kelly felt empowered to authorize it herself or she was told by her boss, the chief of staff, or his boss, the governor. (post shortened) “Well in advance” is a relative term. \*•\*August 28: Port Authority Chief Engineer Peter Zipf emailed Wildstein: “As requested,” he attached a plan for reducing the rush hour toll lane allotment for Fort Lee from three lanes to two. “One additional scenario could be a merge down to one lane, if needed,” he added. •August 29: Zipf provided a modified plan for Wildstein, including an option taking Fort Lee down to a single toll lane, “as discussed.” •September 6: Darcy Licorish of the Port Authority Police Department sent an email indicating that Wildstein had instructed Robert Durando, General Manager of the George Washington Bridge, to implement the one-lane plan. •September 9: Traffic hell in Fort Lee\*\*. > **[Chris Christie's People Would've Gotten Away With Bridgegate If They Had Gone...](https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-christies-people-wouldve-gotten-away-with-bridgegate-if-they-hadnt-been-so-greedy-2014-1)** > > The original plan would've cut Fort Lee from three lanes to two. They probably would've gotten away with it. It’s obvious that Port Authority’s Wildstein was shopping for possible options for Ft Lee. Maybe Port Authority’s Wildstein didn’t think that annoying another rabbi would get his point across? Whatever his point might have been, that is. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1045 "2014-03-24T16:13:40Z")
Christie’s own investigation, by his own lawyers, who did not even interview Christie Crony Wildstein or Christie Campaign Manager Stepien or Christie Deputy Chief of Staff Kelly, has cleared Christie. Surprised? At a cost to NJ taxpayers of only a million or so. Yes, it \*is \*assholes all the way down. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1046 "2014-03-24T16:20:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Christie’s own investigation, by his own lawyers, who did not even interview Christie Crony Wildstein or Christie Campaign Manager Stepien or Christie Deputy Chief of Staff Kelly, has cleared Christie. Surprised? > > At a cost to NJ taxpayers of only a million or so. > > Yes, it \*is \*assholes all the way down. 🙂 As I understand the story, many of the people actually involved in the Great NJ Lane Reassignment refused to talk to “Christie’s own investigation” investigators. Did “Christie’s own investigation” find everyone innocent or did they find there was not enough evidence to reach a conclusion? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1047 "2014-03-24T16:30:48Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I believe the legislative committee errored when it pushed the 5th Amendment issue into court. If the court rules that Kelly and Stepien do not have to provide self-incriminating evidence of something the legislative committee only imagines exists, and I believe it will, it could prove more difficult for the federal investigation to break the 5th Amendment defense. You’re going to give us all brain cramps. So you’re stating that if they don’t have to produce something that doesn’t exist, that hurts the federal prosecutors? If I had to guess, it’s a foregone conclusion that Kelly gets immunity in order to finger Christie, so these mental gymnastics over the 5th amendment being somehow strengthened by possible missteps on the part of a legislative body will be rendered pointless. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1048 "2014-03-24T16:30:55Z")
You yourself have been strenuously equating those two concepts all the thread long. Why do you wish to distinguish them now? ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1049 "2014-03-24T16:43:14Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Yes, it \*is \*assholes all the way down. 🙂 And starting all the way up, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1050 "2014-03-24T19:40:29Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > You’re going to give us all brain cramps. So you’re stating that if they don’t have to produce something that doesn’t exist, that hurts the federal prosecutors? If I had to guess, it’s a foregone conclusion that Kelly gets immunity in order to finger Christie, so these mental gymnastics over the 5th amendment being somehow strengthened by possible missteps on the part of a legislative body will be rendered pointless. Brain cramps? Seriously? I would use the term, stumped. And who is _us_? Just so I know who you represent. \*Lawyers for Kelly and Stepien partially based their 5th Amendment claims on a parallel criminal investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office, which is seeking to uncover whether federal laws were broken. The legislative panel, which lacks authority to prosecute, wants to find out how high up Christie’s chain of command the lane-closing scheme went and why it was hatched. …Lawyers for Kelly and Stepien also said the subpoena amounts to a fishing expedition, but the panel’s attorneys said the documents turned over so far make it reasonable to believe related correspondence exists and should be turned over. …Stepien’s lawyer said FBI agents visited his client’s apartment and inquired whether he paid the rent on time; Kelly’s lawyer said agents sought to interview his client and her parents, but that no one was willing to talk.\* > **[Associated Press News: Breaking News | Latest News Today](https://apnews.com)** > > Read the latest headlines, breaking news, and videos at APNews.com, the definitive source for independent journalism from every corner of the globe. The political investigation is trying to get Kelly and Stepien to provided lots and lots of info that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the Great NJ Lane Reassignment. The judge is looking for some reasonable suspicion that there is evidence before denying 5th Amendment protection. Just because the panel’s attorneys said the documents turned over so far make it reasonable to believe related correspondence exists, doesn’t mean the judge is buying it. Especially when the political committee is looking into Kelly’s EX-Inlaws and Stepien’s landlord??? The political committee’s attempt to throw a really wide net (fishing) looks more like an act of desperation. I don’t know if the federal investigation can work around a 5th Amendment ruling issued because the political committee was fishing? Kelly and Stepien may have evidence that Christie was involved in the Great NJ Lane Reassignment. But prosecutors have to prove to the court that they have a reasonable expectation that such evidence exists. Simply saying that there are 10 emails doesn’t mean that an 11th email exists. If there is evidence that emails 1 thru 5 exist and that 7 thru 11 exist, there would be a reasonable expectation that email 6 exists. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1051 "2014-03-24T19:59:28Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You yourself have been strenuously equating those two concepts all the thread long. Why do you wish to distinguish them now? Which two concepts are you referring to? Innocent until proven guilty? There is no proof that Christie was involved in the Great NJ Lane Reassignment? The media’s unproven rumors contradict the other media unproven rumors. I understand that you know what you’re referring to but I could use some guidance. Maybe quoting the post you were responding to? \*I’m doing the work, I’m baby-stepping, I’m not a slacker! - Bob Wiley (Bill Murray) quote from “What about Bob?”\* ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1052 "2014-03-25T00:50:58Z")
[REUTERS](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/24/internal-review-chris-christie_n_5021001.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york&ir=New+York) > [@](#): > > After two months, 70 interviews and more than $1 million in legal fees paid by New Jersey taxpayers, the internal review is complete and has found no evidence Christie was involved with planning or directing the lane closures which snarled traffic in the borough of Fort Lee, New Jersey, according to a report published in The New York Times. Everybody can go home now. Laughable, except for the “_more than $1 million in legal fees **paid by New Jersey taxpayers** _” part… ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1053 "2014-03-25T01:54:37Z")
The Port Authority declined to pay legal bills for for Wildstein. Have they ever made a decision on whether or not to cover Baroni? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1054 "2014-03-25T02:07:16Z")
Funny how you always preface Wildstein’s name with “Port Authority” but never preface Kelly or Stepein’s name similarly. Still desperately clinging to that (long lost to everybody but you) perception of neutrality. It’s so cute. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1055 "2014-03-25T02:56:15Z")
I’m also still awaiting **Doorhinge** ’s thoughts as to why Kelly instigated this traffic snarl. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1056 "2014-03-25T15:08:08Z")
That has not actually been proven, no DNA samples from the email from Rogue Loose Cannon Kelly have been analyzed. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1057 "2014-03-26T14:48:28Z")
> [@Fir\_na\_tine](#): > > The Port Authority declined to pay legal bills for for Wildstein. Have they ever made a decision on whether or not to cover Baroni? To bring “everyone” up to date - Jan 16, 2014 \*A spokesman for the Port Authority said indemnification had been requested by David Wildstein, who ordered the Sept. 9-13 lane closures, and by his immediate supervisor, Bill Baroni, who approved his actions in advance. The spokesman, Chris Valens, said the agency’s legal department was weighing the request. Valens said the agency would not not provide severance packages to Baroni, whose salary was $291,000 a year, or Wildstein, whose salary was $150,000. Baroni was appointed deputy executive director by Gov. Chris Christie in early 2010, and hired Wildstein with Christie’s backing later that year. Wildstein announced his resignation on Dec. 6, followed by Christie’s announcement of Baroni’s departure on Dec. 13\*. > **[Former port officials in bridge scandal ask agency to pay their legal bills](https://www.nj.com/politics/2014/01/port_officials_in_gwb_scandal_ask_agency_to_pay_their_legal_bills.html)** > > The two former officials of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey who resigned last month amid investigations into the George Washington Bridge lane closures have asked the Port Authority to pay their legal bills, the agency said Jan. 24, 2014 _Another Christie appointee who resigned, former Deputy Executive Director Bill Baroni, has also requested indemnification, a legal designation that would allow the Port Authority to cover his legal costs. His request is still under review, the spokesman said._ [http://www.northjersey.com/news/nj-state-news/gwb-scandal-port-authority-won-t-pay-legal-bills-for-david-wildstein-1.693492](http://www.northjersey.com/news/nj-state-news/gwb-scandal-port-authority-won-t-pay-legal-bills-for-david-wildstein-1.693492) For two months, the Port Authority has been reviewing Port Authority’s Baroni’s request to pay his legal fees but the lame stream media hasn’t bothered to report on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1058 "2014-03-26T14:52:21Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Funny how you always preface Wildstein’s name with “Port Authority” but never preface Kelly or Stepein’s name similarly. Still desperately clinging to that (long lost to everybody but you) perception of neutrality. > > It’s so cute. Thanks. Neutrality? How did you jump to the conclusion that I’m neutral? I’ve taken a strong position on the Great NJ Lane Reassignment _story_. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1059 "2014-03-26T15:01:12Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > I’m also still awaiting **Doorhinge** ’s thoughts as to why Kelly instigated this traffic snarl. I’m waiting to hear the end of your story also. Especially since you chose to ignore my post MXXXIX where I agreed with **elucidator** ’s post MXXXVI. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351/1060 "2014-03-26T16:35:07Z")
> **[The billion-dollar development at the center of 'Bridgegate'](https://www.msnbc.com/steve-kornacki/the-bridgegate-theory-you-havent-heard-msna245661)** > > The GWB closures also affected and possibly jeopardized a project of enormous economic and political significance. **The billion-dollar development at the center of ‘Bridgegate’** (Warning! MSNBC! Your correspondent from the conservative wing of the extreme left accepts no responsibility for any infestation by liberal cooties!) > [@](#): > > …The project in question sits on what is known in Fort Lee as Redevelopment Area 5 – a 16-acre parcel of land that had sat vacant for four decades before Sokolich began leading plans to develop it. It is some of the most valuable real estate in New Jersey, thanks to its proximity to the George Washington Bridge, which serves as a gateway to New York City – and especially because it abuts the very local access lanes that were closed by members of Christie’s team… > [@](#): > > …Speedy access to the George Washington Bridge – and to those access lanes in particular – is what made the land particularly valuable, both to developers and potential tenants. A study commissioned by Fort Lee a year earlier had stressed that, once the site was redeveloped, anyone living or working at it would be able to drive to the bridge expeditiously even during rush hour. And in a brochure, the lead developer of the second half of the project – a development called Hudson Lights – played up its proximity to the bridge. > > Notably, a Bergen Record report from last September 16 announced that financing had – after an unexpected delay – been finalized for the Hudson Lights portion of the redevelopment. That date – September 16 – came three days after New York officials at the Port Authority intervened to put an end to the lane closures… > [@](#): > > …“The fact is I didn’t even know Fort Lee got three dedicated lanes until all of this stuff happened,” he said. “And I think we should review that entire policy, because I don’t know why Fort Lee needs three dedicated lanes, to tell you the truth, and I’ve told Chairman [David] Samson this, that we should look at this policy. Because I don’t know why one town gets three lanes. One lane, maybe. Three lanes, for one town? I don’t quite get it.”… Dark conjecture: it was a shakedown. The investors and backers of the project had foolishly and irresponsibly failed to enlist the invaluable counsel and wisdom of Samson and Wolf, a law firm with a spotless record for wise counsel and assistance. A firm whose billable hours and resultant income has, by sheer coincidence, skyrocketed with the advent of the Christie administration. Had the investors the wisdom and probity to enlist the invaluable assistance of Wolf and Samson law firm, I suspect that these problems might never have arisen. So, the lane closings were by way of gentle admonishment, like pouring a bucket of ice water in someone’s lap. Now, let it be noted: I have not found any reports to the effect that the projects investors did _not_ secure the services of the estimable Wolf and Samson, a single ugly fact that would blow my theory to rags and tatters. Nonetheless, I am willing to bet that this is the case, with the calm confidence of a Methodist with four aces. Now, this might offer a ray of cold sunshine for Christie, like the sparkling clarity of a winter’s day in Minnesota, when the illusion of warm sunshine lures the unwary into the open, where a gentle breeze can strip the skin off your face in a matter of seconds. If this sort of genteel extortion is the real crux of the biscuit, it allows the possibility that some of the major players here, such as Kelly and Wildstein, were unaware of the true nature of the fiasco. They might have actually believed that they were simply playing a game of political hardball, punishing the mayor of Fort Lee for his lack of vision and probity in his endorsements. Not exactly as innocent as lambs frolicking in the daffodils, but not greedy, grasping extortion. Cold comfort. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-christie-or-his-staff-intentionally-cause-the-fort-lee-traffic-jam/678351.md?page=54)