Did Christie (or his staff) intentionally cause the Fort Lee traffic jam?

NBC has an article that names the three people. They are the chief of staff, the communications director, and a city council person.

The witnesses apparently bear out Zimmer’s story, or at least they remember Zimmer stating that was the case at the time.

On the other hand, Guadagno could hardly seem more forced and insincere in her denial. I’ve seen more convincing footage of POWs making forced statements. So the question is, will Guadagno continue to deny or will she cut a deal with the feds and testify against Christie in exchange for immunity?

Totally irrelevant, but does anyone else think Dawn Zimmer is a hottie?

Can anything actually come out of a private conversation between two people? If funds were withheld that would be easy enough to prove i assume.

if she does, and if she doesn’t get impeached or forced to resign, guess who becomes governor.

Best looking thing in Hoboken. Which, btw, was Lou Costello’s (of Abbot and Costello) home town. At least the hometown of the character.

Lou Costello’s actual hometown was Paterson, NJ (not sure if it was changed for his character).

I am really not getting this.

My Boss and I have a conversation in his office, overheard by no one. Afterward, I tell 5 people that the Boss said he would give me a raise (he did not).

Later, when asked, all 5 people report that, yes, that is what Typo Negative said. The 5 people all speak the truth, but how does that support MY account of what transpired between me and my Boss? Sounds a bit like we’re saying I can be more correct if I repeat a lie to more people!
Just to be clear, I am NOT suggesting that the Mayor lied. I do not know if she did or did not. Just that her repeating something to more people doesn’t make it any more or less true.

In a “he said/she said” (or “she said/she said”) case, discussions with third parties can be used to determine the credibility of each of the parties. This is often the case with sexual harassment cases, where the issue of whether the person who was harassed discussed the harassment with others can be a significant factor in determining whom to believe.

Obviously motivation enters into this as well. Did the Mayor have a reason to lie at the time she told the other parties?

This is definitely one reason the testimony of those she talked to at the time matters. If she were making this story up for partisan reasons, the reasons for her to do so in the month or so since the Bridgegate story broke are readily apparent. But as the saying goes, if you come at the king, you’d best not miss: there’d have been no percentage a year ago in manufacturing an attack against Christie, and few people are cagey enough to play a long game like that just in case someday the opportunity to pile on came up.

The proper response when you’ve made a mistake is to acknowledge that you were in error. Not come up with a different set of allegations.

I see why you feel Christie “took responsibility” - you apparently have a flexible definition of what that means.

Interesting fact I hadn’t known - Guadagno is the first Lt Governor of New Jersey. The position was created in 2006. Prior to that, if the Governor resigned, the President of the State Senate became the acting governor - and continued in his Senate position.

Just so we’re talking about the same thing, you’ll have to be more specific. What do you consider to have been a mistake? Please remember that I’ve been limited to discussing Christie and/or NJ.

What do you believe it is that I feel Christie “took responsibility” for? Christie said his people were responsible and it happened under his watch. The elected head of the executive branch “IS” ultimately responsible for the actions of his people. Christie fired a couple of people. There is no evidence yet that shows Christie ordered his people to restrict Ft Lee access to the GW bridge.

Irrelevant and doesn’t matter, but I did look, and I have to say, she look like a man. But de gustibus etc.

That is not an attractive woman.

“That’s not your mother; it’s a man, baby!”

Very not.

So, it’s tasteless to make fat jokes about Christie, detracts from a serious conversation, but assessing the hotness of a female politician is just harmless fun?

Adding: She’s not good-looking in that vapid airbrushed way a TV news anchor would be, no – she has a real face, that’s lived a real life. If we were discussing a man, we’d be talking about character not sex appeal in the person’s looks.

And the phrase “hottie” would not be the one used.

Please, we and everyone else talks and makes fun of Christie’s weight constantly. And she has a real face, a real ugly face.

What tasteless joke? Christie is fat, end of story.

Just saying that he’s fat isn’t tasteless (unless you say it to his face or something), but the jokes about it can be.