# Did Dennis Hopper's "Crush Proof" ever exist at all? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 29, 2003, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260 "2003-05-29T14:06:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ElectroSunDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@ElectroSunDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectroSunDog)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/1 "2003-05-29T14:06:53Z")
I have a question regarding a mysterious entry that appears in every single “complete” filmography of Dennis Hopper. It’s called “Crush Proof” (1972) and was apparently made just after the infamous “The Last Movie” (1971). Or so they TELL us. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, seems to have seen this movie. You can’t find information on it in any film encyclopedia. Go ahead and try, I’m telling you it’s not there All websites will tell you about it is its (supposed) run time. I’m beginning to doubt it ever existed at all. Was it announced and later aborted? What? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/2 "2003-05-29T14:15:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Statistics > > Genre(s): > Drama > Rating: Not available > Runtime: 90 mins. > > Distributor(s): > Anita Thacher Productions > Theatrical Release: Not available > Video Release: Not available > > Locations > > Not available > > Cast & Role > > Francois DeMenil > Babeth Lamy > Pierre Clementi > Dennis Hopper > Bo Diddley > > Crew & Credit > > Francois DeMenil Director > Francois DeMenil Screenplay From [here.](http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/232885) ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/3 "2003-05-29T14:26:31Z")
IMDB adds that it’s in French, and it was made in France, but that’s about it. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/4 "2003-05-29T14:32:26Z")
[This guy](http://www.pimpadelicwonderland.com/lost.html) reckons it is “not currently available in any video format (VHS, Beta, laser, 3/4” tape) NTSC, Secam or Pal, not even bootleg." If you find it, he’d like to know! On preview: hmm, if it was made in French, maybe it has an alternate title? ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/5 "2003-05-29T15:03:21Z")
This has got me intrigued. I’ve got some farily hefty film encyclopedias here and there’s no mention of the film. One possibility is that it’s a [copyright trap](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_165.html), included by an encyclopedia compiler at some point in the past and unwittingly copied to other sources. As far as I can find out, François de Menil (the more usual spelling) was an architect (see fifth paragraph [here](http://www.chron.com/cgi-bin/auth/story/content/chronicle/page1/98/01/01/de-menil-obit.2-0.html)) and also [made a few films](http://www.filmpreservation.org/community_m_menil.html). (The IMDb only lists [two](http://us.imdb.com/Name?De+Menil,+Fran%E7ois#director).) ---
**Author:** ![ElectroSunDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@ElectroSunDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectroSunDog)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/6 "2003-05-30T15:09:11Z")
Most of the films in the “Lost Movies” page turned out to have never been lost at all. Most are merely long out of print; others were unpopular, unfinished, available only in its native country or just never made it to video. The “copyright trap” hypothesis is getting more and more likely for this one, though… ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/7 "2003-05-30T17:36:36Z")
What’s the “copyright trap?” ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/8 "2003-05-30T17:46:13Z")
A copyright trap is a fictitious, non-existent item placed in a catalog, directory, map, atlas, etc., by the author or publisher, to see if anyone else is copying all the data verbatim from this work. If the fictitious copyright trap item later shows up in someone else’s work, you know that they copied it from the earlier work. The _Who’s Who in America_ publishers enter one or more fictitious persons into their biographical directories, with a real address, to see if someone is using the directories for direct mail solicitation (which the _Who’s Who_ people frown upon, since that is one reason why biographees are hesitant to cooperate with such directories). ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/9 "2003-05-30T18:00:31Z")
[http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V+++155376,00.html](http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V+++155376,00.html)? > [@](#): > > In **Crush Proof** a young hippie reminisces about an affair he had with a French girl as the two travelled around the U.S. As they journeyed, they grew further apart: even a visit to see Dennis Hopper didn’t help. ~ Clarke Fountain, All Movie Guide ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/10 "2003-05-30T18:08:32Z")
More lost movies: [http://www.pimpadelicwonderland.com/lost.html](http://www.pimpadelicwonderland.com/lost.html) ---
**Author:** ![ElectroSunDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@ElectroSunDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectroSunDog)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/11 "2003-05-30T23:30:58Z")
YAY! It DOES exist! Now all I have to do is find it and make 18 zillion copies so it will never be “lost” again… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dudpunker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d78d45/32.png) [@dudpunker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dudpunker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/12 "2012-10-09T20:08:24Z")
Still wondering if anyone has seen “Crush Proof” yet or knows where to find it? ---
**Author:** ![jakesteele](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jakesteele](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jakesteele)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/13 "2012-10-10T01:40:59Z")
> **[Crush Proof (1972) ⭐ 6.6 | Drama](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216643/)** > > 1h 34m [http://extrasharing.com/crush-proof-1972-download-links](http://extrasharing.com/crush-proof-1972-download-links) ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/14 "2012-10-10T01:52:26Z")
Wow, I feel like a complete idiot - I just followed some links and discovered Dennis Hopper was dead! Can’t help but feel I should have noticed that. ---
**Author:** ![dudpunker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d78d45/32.png) [@dudpunker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dudpunker)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/15 "2012-10-10T14:23:54Z")
Jakesteele, before I try downloading that link…do you know if it works? And have you watched it? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![impossiblefunky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e0b2c6/32.png) [@impossiblefunky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/impossiblefunky)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/16 "2016-04-15T21:23:50Z")
Yes. This movie exists. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/17 "2016-04-15T21:31:14Z")
Well, that’s settled then. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/18 "2016-04-15T21:32:23Z")
> [@impossiblefunky](#): > > Yes. This movie exists. You’ll have to do better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/19 "2016-04-15T22:37:18Z")
Moved to Cafe Society. Note that this thread was started in 2003. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260/20 "2016-04-15T23:24:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Cast & Role > > Francois DeMenil > Babeth Lamy > Pierre Clementi > Dennis Hopper > Bo Diddley > > Crew & Credit > > Francois DeMenil Director > Francois DeMenil Screenplay Obviously one approach is to research all these other names and see if their biographical information discusses this film. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-dennis-hoppers-crush-proof-ever-exist-at-all/178260.md?page=2)