# Did Fred ever threaten Wilma?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** cartoons-animation\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402 "2021-01-01T02:47:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/1 "2021-01-01T02:47:51Z")

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Ralph often (although only in hyperbole) threatened Alice. Did Fred ever utter anything threatening, of a similar nature, to Wilma? My memory is that he did…but my memory has more errors in it than a bad baseball game…

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/2 "2021-01-01T04:02:25Z")

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Not that I remember, but it’s been decades since I watched _The Flintstones_.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/3 "2021-01-01T04:05:33Z")

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Don’t know, but I’m pretty sure Snowboarder Bo has.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/4 "2021-01-01T04:27:10Z")

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It’s been too many years since I have seen the show. I know this has come up before though, so I went poking around on google and I found that Looper has this to say about it:

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> While The Flintstones is clearly a remake of The Honeymooners, albeit an animated one set in prehistoric times, it does make a few notable changes.  
> …  
> Also, the show is a bit more of an equal opportunity offender when it comes to domestic abuse.  
> …  
> but viewers of The Flintstones — kids, mostly — often saw it work the other way around. Fred often threatened to hit Wilma, but he never actually did. But Wilma? When Fred did something she didn’t like — which was often — she’d clock him in the head.

> **[Things Only Adults Notice In The Flintstones - Looper](https://www.looper.com/167179/things-only-adults-notice-in-the-flintstones/)**
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> Viewing the show through adult eyes reveals a complex world with a lot of dark or problematic moments. You wouldn't notice them if you're a kid, but if you're a grown up... you yabba-dabba-do. These are the things only adults notice in The...

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/5 "2021-01-01T08:20:19Z")

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No but he sometimes ghosted her.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/6 "2021-01-01T08:44:56Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> While The Flintstones is clearly a remake of The Honeymooners, albeit an animated one **set in prehistoric times**

Certainly not. It is obviously set in a post-apocalyptic future where America has been bombed back to the Stone Age.They remember things like vacuum cleaners and telephones, but no longer have the technology to make them. So they train mutated/ genetically engineered animals to replicate them.

Meanwhile, the Jetsons live high in the sky.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/7 "2021-01-01T18:14:04Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> Fred often threatened to hit Wilma, but he never actually did. But Wilma? When Fred did something she didn’t like — which was often — she’d clock him in the head.

Well, that’s uncomfortable… It answers my question – thank you! – but makes me sad twice. First that he’d do this…and second that _she’d_ do this! But now I know. Thanks!

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/8 "2021-01-01T19:14:36Z")

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Yeah, I only remember Wilma bonking him with a frying pan. I don’t remember him doing anything to her. I also remember deeply admiring the humor of the car. In fact the car is the main thing I remember.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/9 "2021-01-01T20:03:00Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> They remember things like vacuum cleaners and telephones, but no longer have the technology to make them.

Oh, no, quite to opposite. They have more advanced tech than we have. (what, you think you can stone-age tech TV and radio? HA!) The stone-age appliances and phones are very sophisticated, made to resemble what they think stone age people would use. Like the shell phones - they’re really ultra-miniature sophisticated voice-controlled cell phones.

The cars are also sophistiacted “smart” near-self driving cars with electric motors in the solid-appearing wheels. Probably charged by tesla coils hidden throughout the city.

I haven’t been able to descern if they are willing participants in the fake, (ie luddites looking for a simpler life) or are being deliberatly deceived by the Jetson’s people.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/10 "2021-01-01T20:08:16Z")

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Magic. Someone in Bedrock is a master of all wizardry, conjuring all of these effects, which, otherwise, violate all known natural laws.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/11 "2021-01-03T00:31:25Z")

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It’s right there in the closing theme …

“They’re the modern stone age family”

Why? My guess is, _The Truman Show_

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/12 "2021-01-03T00:48:37Z")

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Fred used to threaten Arnold the paperkid; he probably would have been arrested in today’s society:

(Fred has bought a new bowling ball against Wilma’s wishes. It’s sitting on the floor in its carry case. Arnold notices it.)

A: What’s this?  
F: A loaf of pumpernickel.  
A: What’s it doing on the floor?  
F: How’d you like to join it?

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/13 "2021-01-03T01:13:38Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Fred used to threaten Arnold the paperkid; he probably would have been arrested in today’s society:

“Your honor, our defense is: some people just NEED thumping. I rest my case.”

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/14 "2021-01-03T01:19:31Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> “Your honor, our defense is: some people just NEED thumping. I rest my case.”

Judge Snyder: You _rest_ you’re case?  
Lionel Hutz: What? Oh no, I thought that was just a figure of speech. Case closed!

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/15 "2021-01-04T00:53:00Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I haven’t been able to descern if they are willing participants in the fake, (ie luddites looking for a simpler life) or are being deliberatly deceived by the Jetson’s people.

It’s obvious that the Flintstones are in the Jetson’s zoo. They are given Jetsons films and rudimentary building supplies. They’ve used these to cobble together TVs and vacuum cleaners. What you never saw were the objects they were going to use for the uprising, ala the Great Escape.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/16 "2021-01-04T18:30:26Z")

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I don’t remember Wilma ever willfully hitting Fred. She just wasn’t that physical of a character.

Now, Wilma’s mother hitting Fred, to me, seems more likely.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/17 "2021-01-04T19:17:37Z")

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I know we’re all joking but canonically according to the “The Jetsons Meet The Flintstones” movie the Jetsons have to use a time machine to go back in time to meet the Flintstones.

Also if you take Harvey Birdman as canon, the Jetsons had to go back in time to sue the past and Fred Flintstone is shown alive in Harvey Birdman’s time already.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/18 "2021-01-04T19:23:34Z")

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> [@Asuka](#):
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> I know we’re all joking but canonically according to the “The Jetsons Meet The Flintstones” movie the Jetsons have to use a time machine to go back in time to meet the Flintstones.

But, was it _really_ a time machine? I don’t trust those Jetsons!

Remember, they had [time travel in the “Stone Age”](https://flintstones.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Machine), too. And they never visited the Jetsons!

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/19 "2021-01-04T23:39:31Z")

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And both families visited the same World’s Fair, without any time travel from either.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-fred-ever-threaten-wilma/929402/20 "2021-01-11T19:17:58Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> I don’t remember Wilma ever willfully hitting Fred.

Justy saw one today - she bonked him hard on the head with a broom in Moolight and Maintenance (season 5), and IMO what he did did not rise to the level that domestic violence was required.

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