# Did Goring say this at Nuremberg?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 6, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016 "2002-10-06T01:10:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![CC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CC)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/1 "2002-10-06T01:10:00Z")

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In this week’s Chicago Reader - letters - is a reference to a quote attributed to Hermann Goring, at the Nuremberg trials. If it can be verified, it makes a powerful statement about what’s going on today in the U.S. To wit:

“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Does anyone have a way to chase this down? Thanks

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/2 "2002-10-06T01:15:43Z")

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Type the quote into Google or similar and watch the hits roll in.

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**Author:** ![AndrewL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@AndrewL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndrewL)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/3 "2002-10-06T01:16:38Z")

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Snopes confirms it, mostly.

[http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm](http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm)

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**Author:** ![I\_am\_Sparticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@I\_am\_Sparticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_am_Sparticus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/4 "2002-10-06T01:48:13Z")

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I’ve read the translated transcript of Goering’s testimony. Yes, it sounds more or less like what he said.

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**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/5 "2002-10-06T03:22:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CC \*  
> **If it can be verified, it makes a powerful statement about what’s going on today in the U.S.**

I would only disagree by saying that it _might_ be a powerful statement. Just because some leaders may try to lead their people into war through deception it does not follow that every time a leader tries to lead his people to war he is being deceitful.

For an interseting read on the Nuremberg trials, and a book that devotes considerable time to Goring and his actions at the trial, try [J. Persico.](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/014016622X/qid=1033873961/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/103-2956776-4695039?v=glance)

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**Author:** ![CC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CC)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/6 "2002-10-06T03:55:47Z")

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Maybe we’re getting into debate now, but the fact is that it’s a bit of a stretch to suggest that America is under attack - even taking Sept. 11 into account. However, since the moment that Mr. Bush began talking about a War against Terrorism, the country has seemed quite a bit more disposed to get involved in warlike activities, including “war” against Iraq. This is what I meant by connecting Goring’s words to recent conditions, and the growing war sentiments.

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**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-goring-say-this-at-nuremberg/131016/7 "2002-10-06T04:02:28Z")

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Sorry, **CC** I did not intend to start a debate. It is an interesting quote, and perhaps is further confimration that history really is doomed to repeat itself.
