# Did Hillary ever apologize? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715 "2003-06-04T23:44:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715/101 "2003-06-06T18:00:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*There WAS a conspiracy. The whole Lewinsky thing was orchestrated solely as a means to bring down Clinton. Whether he actually got blown or not is sort of beside the point. I thing Kenneth Starr owes the country an apology and linda Tripp owes the state of Maryland some jail time. \*\* Word. That Cocksucker Starr owes me some money. I figure since it was one of the largest legal spectacles the gopvernment has seen since whitewater and he spent like 4 billion dollars taking down the president, HE owes the taxpayers a few bucks. Where is Mr. Starr now? After the mess he created was over, he disappeared. Thankfully. Sam ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715/102 "2003-06-06T19:47:51Z")
Entire books have been written documenting the entire right-wing conspiracy. Problem is, the people most in need of reading those books prefer talk radio over reading. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715/103 "2003-06-06T19:55:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GaWd \* > \*\*Where is Mr. Starr now? After the mess he created was over, he disappeared. Thankfully. > \*\* I decided to try to answer that question. It took a little while. Certainly you remember back in 1997 when Ken Starr announced he would be leaving the Whitewater investigation to become a dean at [Pepperdine School of Law](http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/17/starr/). And when he said [his departure wouldn’t affect the probe](http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/18/starr.whitewater/). But then, just a few days later, Starr [changed his mind](http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/21/starr.timing/), saying that Pepperdine had graciously decided to await his substantial completion of the probe. Over a year later, Starr [said he was giving up the deanship offer at Pepperdine](http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/16/lewinsky.scandal/). At roughly the same time, the press started looking at [Richard Mellon Scaife](http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/27/scaife.profile/), who had shoveled millions of dollars into Clinton-haytah groups, all of it apparently above board. He had also shoveled $13 million into Pepperdine over several decades. And, there were allegations that Scaife had filtered money to Clinton accuser [David Hale](http://www.salon.com/news/1998/03/cov_17news.html) through the _American Spectator_ through something called the [Arkansas Project](http://www.salonmag.com/news/1998/06/cov_08news.html). Starr gave that section of the investigation to a fellow named Shaheen, who wrote a 168-page report. Starr quoted from it, implying that there was insufficient evidence to implicate Scaife or Hale–or Starr himself. We know this because Starr said so. The Shaheen Report, however, [was and continues to be withheld](http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/05/17/shaheen_report/) because it contains grand jury testimony. You know, like the grand jury testimony in the Paula Jones case that President Clinton gave about Monica Lewinsky, which was [leaked by Starr’s office](http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/03/05/clinton.deposition/). Helpful portions of the Shaheen report have [purportedly been released](http://www.nationalreview.com/york/yorkprint052301.html), including this illuminating quote: > [@](#): > > [REDACTED] relayed [REDACTED]'s request, mentioning [REDACTED] by name, to [REDACTED] of the Washington Legal Foundation, [REDACTED] of the Institute for Justice, and [REDACTED] of the CIR. [REDACTED] stated that [REDACTED] declined [REDACTED]'s request but does not recall [REDACTED] or [REDACTED]'s response to the request. In the meantime, Hale was represented by a fellow named Ted Olson. According to one source I saw, Olson billed Hale $140,000 for his services. I can’t figure out how Olson got paid. Oh, yeah, did I mention that Olson was on the Board of Directors of the _American Spectator_ in the early 1990s? Well, that’s all water under the bridge now. What’s old Teddy Boy doing today? Why, he’s the [Solicitor General of the United States](http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/aboutosg/t_olson_bio.htm), one of the first Bush Administration appointees. It’s okay though. Senator Orrin Hatch said in Human Events that [Ted was honest and forthright](http://www.human-events.com/articles/05-28-01/hatch.html) about the details of his involvement in the Arkansas Project, whatever it was. So, as you can clearly see, there was no conspiracy. It was all straight and above board, and withheld, and redacted, rewarded, and forgotten. I’m sure Hillary’s apology will be forthcoming shortly. But the question was, “what’s Ken Starr doing today?” Well, looks like among other things he’s planning to steer a court case by Napa Valley vintners to the [Supreme Court](http://www.napanews.com/templates/index.cfm?template=story_full&id=97AD908E-B425-4C1D-9066-4E5CB4FCC9E6). I bet he wins, 5-4. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715/104 "2003-06-06T19:59:16Z")
Ah, shit. Mods, can you please fix that for me? Line is supposed to read: And, there were allegations that Scaife had filtered money to Clinton accuser [David Hale](http://www.salon.com/news/1998/03/cov_17news.html) through the _American Spectator_ through something called the [Arkansas Project](http://www.salonmag.com/news/1998/06/cov_08news.html). ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715/105 "2003-06-06T23:00:28Z")
Aw, look. This thread is dropping like a rock now. I must have let too much gas out of the bag. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715/106 "2003-06-08T03:40:00Z")
Great summary, Sofa King, and thanks - except you left out the part about just who put up the money to endow the Pepperdine law deanship. Fella name o’ Richard Mellon Scaife. Odd coincidence, ain’t it? You also left out the part about Clinton’s Jones testimony being handed over to Starr’s people later that same night, at a Denny’s as I recall. Joe Conason’s _The Hunting of the President_ is a good narrative by itself, and not nearly as polemical as others of the sort can be. Didn’t Starr get demoted, or pushed aside somehow, by his law firm? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hillary-ever-apologize/179715.md?page=5)