# Did Hitler murder any Muslims?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 15, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739 "2015-04-15T15:24:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/61 "2015-04-16T22:31:10Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> [Theresienstadt](http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007506).  
> _"He_ [Heydrich]\* stated that Jews residing in Germany and Austria who were 65 years old and above would not be “evacuated” to the east for “labor,” but would be “transferred to a ghetto for the elderly” at Theresienstadt. Also to be “transferred” were German and Austrian Jewish World War I veterans who met at least one of two criteria: severely disabled due to war wounds and/or veterans awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class and above."\*

Given a choice between Theresienstadt & Auschwitz, Theresienstadt was a garden spot. But still pretty damn harsh. It was used to fool the Red Cross, etc by showing the Concentration camps werent so bad.:rolleyes: Most who died there died of Typhus or late in the war due to severe food shortages across Germany. It was not a “Death Camp” like Auschwitz.

Sure there were some “Muslim” SS unis. But also British SS units ( British Free Corps), Dutch, Danish, etc:

> **[11th SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Division Nordland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11th_SS_Volunteer_Panzergrenadier_Division_Nordland)**
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> The 11th SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Division Nordland (German: 11. SS-Freiwilligen Panzergrenadier-Division "Nordland") was a Waffen-SS division primarily raised with Germans and ethnic Germans from Romania, but also foreign volunteers from Western Europe. It saw action, as part of Army Group North, in the Independent State of Croatia and on the Eastern Front during World War II.
> In February 1943, Hitler ordered the creation of an SS division which would be officered by foreign volunteers.
> I...

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/62 "2015-04-16T23:17:43Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Reza Shah (like most Iranians) was not an Arab.

IIRC Iranians were considered Aryans under the Nuremburg Laws (Iran does mean “Land of the Aryans” after all.

> [@jezzaOZ](#):
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> Actually, Goebbels especially was an ardent Zionist and worked with Zionist organisations to transfer Jews to Palestine.
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> Even late in the war there was an organised release of (Hungarian?) Jews to go to Palestine but they got caught up in the war and stayed in Europe.

There was the [Haavara Agreement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement); is that what you’re thinking of?

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/63 "2015-04-17T09:25:15Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> Please do not forget as well the hundreds of thousands of muslims who made up the majority of the free french forces to late 1944 (75%), most who were are volunteers - the west africa, the Moroccans, etc.

I can confirm that - my brother-in-law’s grandfather, who passed away last year, fought alongside Muslims in an Algerian regiment, in both WW2 and in Vietnam.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/64 "2015-04-17T11:36:42Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> The word Muslim is an Arabic word: “Muslim” is an Arabic word meaning “one who submits (to God)”.
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> Where do you get that only 20% Muslims are Arabs.

We really need to put World geography back into our H.S. curriculums.

I’ll let you work out the math but here is a good picture of world Muslim distribution.

**Top Ten Countries with Largest Muslim Population**

1 Indonesia 209,120,000 13.1%  
2 India 176,190,000 11 %  
3 Pakistan 167,410,000 10.5%  
4 Bangladesh 133,540,000 8.4 %  
5 Nigeria 77,300,000 4.8 %  
6 Egypt 76,990,000 4.8 %  
7 Iran 73,570,000 4.6 %  
8 Turkey 71,330,000 4.5 %  
9 Algeria 34,730,000 2.2 %  
10 Morocco 31,940,000 2 %

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/65 "2015-04-17T11:46:36Z")

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> [@jezzaOZ](#):
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> I know what ‘H’ word Godwins law refers to. I was asking if there was a similar law for the other ‘H’ word.

Even if there were a similar Law, it still wouldn’t apply since the discussion began with the other “H” word as well.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/66 "2015-04-17T13:21:51Z")

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WW2 is a war that had battles fought in several Muslim countries, and in which Muslims fought on both sides - but of course Muslims were not the main principals on any of the sides.

I am reminded of the pilght of this poor Korean fellow:

> **[Yang Kyoungjong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong)**
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> Yang Kyoungjong (Korean: 양경종) was a Korean soldier who, according to some, fought in the Imperial Japanese Army, the Soviet Red Army, and later the German Wehrmacht during World War II.
> Authors Antony Beevor and Steven Zaloga have regarded Yang Kyoungjong's existence as a fact, but both authors do not provide any sources in their books. A 2005 Korean SBS documentary that focused on his case concluded there was no convincing evidence of his existence. The man with Asian features in the famous ...

Conscripted by the Japanese; captured and conscripted by the Russians; finally, captured and conscripted by the Germans!

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hitler-murder-any-muslims/717739/67 "2015-04-17T15:31:14Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I can confirm that - my brother-in-law’s grandfather, who passed away last year, fought alongside Muslims in an Algerian regiment, in both WW2 and in Vietnam.

Thank you allesan, it saddens me that this does not happen so much any more.

But in any case if some Jews fought for the nazis to preserve their own skins I can not see this as making any statement other than the sickness of the Nazi regime and its horrible ideology of hatred obliged some, and there is no conclusion to take other than the evil they did continues to echo through time and poison even now.

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