# Did HRC Back Up Her Charges (Regarding Trump)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 24, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304 "2015-12-24T23:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/121 "2016-01-03T19:44:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump supporter] That’s not ISIS!!! [/Ts] [**Trump:**](http://news.yahoo.com/trump-brushes-off-militant-recruiting-video-citing-words-142120107--election.html) It wasn’t ISIS and it wasn’t made at the time, and she lied. Of course Trump doesn’t have any evidence that his words weren’t being used. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/122 "2016-01-03T19:44:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump must be disappointed that it’s only an al-Qaeda _affiliate_ using him for propaganda - he’s accustomed to only being vilified by the biggest, most glamorous, absolutely terrific terrorist cells. Eh. Trump is running scared. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/123 "2016-01-03T20:59:28Z")
Still, an important point, not ISIS but an affiliate of AlQ, from the moderate wing of barking mad Islamic fanaticism. This crucial fact seems to have eluded someone who claims to have been a Secretary of State! ---
**Author:** ![lalaith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@lalaith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lalaith)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/124 "2016-01-03T21:12:56Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > When you’ve got this blowhard on TV every night going on about evil Muslims followed by reports that he is leading in the polls, that might make Muslims think that there is a large segment of the US population who wants to kill them. That’s because there is a significant segment of the US population who wants to kill them. I know. I’m surrounded by people who think nothing of saying things along the lines of kill all the Muslims or bomb them all. Or they shouldn’t be allowed in the country or should be kicked out of the country or they shouldn’t be allowed to bring their religion when they immigrate. (Course, the fact that the Europeans who came here brought their religions and didn’t convert to the indigenous religions will never – not in a hundred years – cross their minds.) Now, I don’t think they have a problem with the Muslims in Indonesia. (You should have seen the look I got recently when I pointed out that the most populous Muslim country was Indonesia. Not somewhere in the Mideast.) But these people don’t **know** that the biggest chunk of Muslims is in Indonesia. (And I doubt some of them could find Indonesia on a map.) I’d like to see a poll on this. A simple question: Would you support the killing of all Muslims? I suspect the “Yes” percentage would be a significant minority. However, last time I checked you can find a significant minority that support any number of crackpot ideas. But it’s still not a comfortable number…and you should try living being surrounded by that number. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/125 "2016-01-03T22:03:33Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Doesn’t matter what he said. Nothing one man says is going to add a single ISIS recruit. Europe has had anti-Islam demagogues for years. Trump adds nothing new. You can’t possibly know that. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/126 "2016-01-03T22:05:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Still, an important point, not ISIS but an affiliate of AlQ, from the moderate wing of barking mad Islamic fanaticism. This crucial fact seems to have eluded someone who claims to have been a Secretary of State! Well, no, she knows the difference. You’re the one who is confused about what she said. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/127 "2016-01-04T01:41:58Z")
> [@lalaith](#): > > (And I doubt some of them could find Indonesia on a map.) I can. It’s purple! But I’m sure that I’m disqualified because I don’t have any problems with Islam. Well, that’s not 100% true. I have the same problems with Islam that I have with any organized religion. George Carlin said (about government, but the same general principle holds true in religion), “Government want to tell you things you can’t say because they’re against the law, or you can’t say this because it’s against a regulation, or here’s something you can’t say because its a…secret; You can’t tell him that because he’s not cleared to know that. Government wants to control information and control language because that’s the way you control thought, and basically that’s the game they’re in.” ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/128 "2016-01-04T14:06:53Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I can. It’s purple! > > But I’m sure that I’m disqualified because I don’t have any problems with Islam. Well, that’s not 100% true. I have the same problems with Islam that I have with any organized religion. George Carlin said (about government, but the same general principle holds true in religion), “Government want to tell you things you can’t say because they’re against the law, or you can’t say this because it’s against a regulation, or here’s something you can’t say because its a…secret; You can’t tell him that because he’s not cleared to know that. Government wants to control information and control language because that’s the way you control thought, and basically that’s the game they’re in.” The U.S. government doesn’t act like that though. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304/129 "2016-01-04T17:26:31Z")
> [@lalaith](#): > > That’s because there is a significant segment of the US population who wants to kill them. I know. I’m surrounded by people who think nothing of saying things along the lines of kill all the Muslims or bomb them all. Or they shouldn’t be allowed in the country or should be kicked out of the country or they shouldn’t be allowed to bring their religion when they immigrate. (Course, the fact that the Europeans who came here brought their religions and didn’t convert to the indigenous religions will never – not in a hundred years – cross their minds.) Having this guy on TV emboldens these people to say these things out loud. After all, Trump says it and he’s on TV running for President. People who were racist tended to keep it to themselves, or at least not to utter it in polite company. Now, the lid is off. I’m in rural Texas, so I am surrounded by those folks. Of course, the big ethnic minority (soon to be majority) here is Hispanic folks, mostly of Mexican heritage. Because I am white, some people think it is okay to say horrible things around me. It’s ridiculous. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-hrc-back-up-her-charges-regarding-trump/741304.md?page=6)