# Did I actually SEE this ad? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 22, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213 "2003-07-22T19:36:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/21 "2003-07-23T05:35:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > **or the [Titan Tigress](http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976249952.htm) with its rose-engraved grip.** **I WANT THAT!** ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/22 "2003-07-23T12:20:36Z")
Boy, that ad really set back feminism. I was for women’s equal rights before I saw it, but now I’m going to lobby for stripping away women’s right to vote. My god man, she was in her underwear! How can you not immediately chain your wife to the stove and anally rape her after viewing this stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/23 "2003-07-23T12:54:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*😛 > > Ok, the only thing I knew about her was she was on a coin. Just read her bio, so I’m up to speed now. > > Why would they use her? \*\* Well, they couldn’t very well use Sacagawea. With the prices that Madison Avenue & the Garment District charge womyn for clothes, they can’t afford to appear to be making a womyn look like a Saca- Anything… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/24 "2003-07-23T13:02:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jinwicked \* > \*\ ***I WANT THAT!** \*\* Isn’t it SWEET?!?!? Yeah, a crappy little .25 doesn’t have any stopping power so my wife wouldn’t be interested but an automatic is SO much better as a purse gun than the revolvers Smith & Wesson was selling in their Ladysmith line. A hammer? Isn’t that going to catch on something as she draws it? OTOH, S&W doesn’t offer the pearl and pink grips they used to. Instead they had really nice rosewood grips that go fabulously with blued steel. Hmmm, I have smallish hands and regular size handguns are a little big. Am I secure enough in my masculinity to buy a woman’s pistol? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/25 "2003-07-23T13:14:52Z")
On a serious note… I’m figuring some self-proclaimed genius figured that hey, SBA was about liberating women, right? And our product is so comfy it’s liberating, right? It’s a natural! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/26 "2003-07-23T13:26:22Z")
(sigh) In that case I fall back on my “marketers are morons” line. Senior year I picked up a friend’s marketing text and realized I had completely wasted four years of college by majoring in something that required work and thought and which would ultimately pay me less. ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/27 "2003-07-23T13:29:48Z")
**Sauron** and I saw the Betsey Ross one the other night. It finished and we both looked at each other and said, “What the hell?” At first I thought I had drifted off for a second on the couch but when he said the same thing I figured out it wasn’t a dream. 😉 We never could figure out what they were advertising…guess I’ll call and tell him it was underwear. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/28 "2003-07-23T13:39:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > **… I don’t wear ladies’ underwear …** Good God, man, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/29 "2003-07-23T13:40:51Z")
Aw come one people, we should be applauding these underwear ads for resurging everyone’s interest in history. Thanks to these nearly naked wimmen, I now have a greater appreciation for our founding mothers. I now realize that underneath their clothes, they’re just as naked as everybody else! ---
**Author:** ![bayonet1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bayonet1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bayonet1976)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/30 "2003-07-23T14:05:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by insomnia4AM \* > \*\*I guess the idea is that no matter what you are doing, you should be comfortable, and apparently these underpants are comfy. Why they are using the Susan B. Anthony and Betsy Ross approach is beyond me. \*\* I wonder if they’ll have an ad with [Harriet Tubman](http://www.nyhistory.com/harriettubman/life.htm) next. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/31 "2003-07-23T14:09:47Z")
I knew Betsy Ross was probably a serious piece of ass. But Susan B. Anthony? ---
**Author:** ![Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misery_Loves_Co)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/32 "2003-07-23T15:15:26Z")
Interject random observation that women’s underwear - specifically the bra - was instrumental in women’s liberation. It’s a lot easier to be active and engaged when you’re mobility and breathing aren’t constricted but your breasts are still supported. There is some irony somewhere in that vis a vis the commercial. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/33 "2003-07-23T15:24:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DrDeth \* > \*\*Oddly, many posters here saw nothing wrong with the comic book artist perverting other author’s characters to put into his comic book, but then panned the League of Extrordinary Gentlemen flick as it “perverted” the artist’s “original” work. I think he had no right to turn these respected literary characters into sick reflections of his own twisted brain. \*\* Where the hell did this come from? First off, the subject matters of the ads aren’t fictional characters! Second, the comic book did rather well to depict the characters rather justly, in my opinion. Hyde was the only one that was off, but Quartermaine, Nemo, and Griffin were damn near spot on (_especially_ Griffin). The big beef with the movie wasn’t their “perversions of the artists’ original works,” it was the fact it was a bad movie. And besides, have you seen any of the original black and white horror films of the “classic” monster movies? Say, **Frankenstien**? Talk about perversions. It’s nothing new, but it’s not a big deal because _those are fictional characters!!!_ Betsy Ross and Susan B. Anthony are real people from our history. Re-working them into hottie, undewear pushing charicatures of their true selves is just utterly ridiculous. It’s like that friggin Marvel Comic that’s planning on turning Princess Di into a super hero (do a search, you can find it yourself). I haven’t seen the Susan B. one, but I have seen the Betsy Ross one and found it horribly stupid. Especially seeing as how a big visual statement of the feminist revolution was the burning of bras. Even aside from that, I think that a woman discussing what she would have done were she allowed to be a patriot would have something more substantial to say “I’d be wearing comfrotable underwear that makes it look like I ain’t wearing underwear.” Priorities, people! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/34 "2003-07-23T15:29:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Spiff \* > \*\*Good God, man, why not? \*\* 1. A fly, or its lack. Convenience is still nice. 2. I am not yet to the point where added support would be comfortable. My breasts are still too pert to keep them pented up in a bra. > [@](#): > > I’m wasting away! Oh… I’m down to a B-Cup! 1. Have you actually WORN women’s underwear? I tried on a friend’s bra once and the underwires nearly KILLED me. 2. They don’t make the most attractive products in my size. If I have to wear ugly underwear I’m going to wear BUTCH ugly underwear. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/35 "2003-07-23T15:42:22Z")
The appearance of Betsy Ross should have sent up a flag. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/36 "2003-07-24T01:52:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bayonet1976 \* > \*\*I wonder if they’ll have an ad with [Harriet Tubman](http://www.nyhistory.com/harriettubman/life.htm) next. \*\* No doubt they will but with retouching the picture will look something like [this](http://supermodelforever.com/archive.jsp?galleryName=Tyra%20Banks&gallery=tb6&week=216&model=tb) ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/37 "2003-07-24T04:58:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by El Elvis Rojo \* > \*\*I think that a woman discussing what she would have done were she allowed to be a patriot would have something more substantial to say “I’d be wearing comfrotable underwear that makes it look like I ain’t wearing underwear.” Priorities, people! \*\* Ummm. I haven’t seen the ads so maybe they are that obnoxious. But early feminists certainly considered comfortable underwear to be one of their priorities. It’s just a shame the advertisers didn’t have to wit to make it “I am Amelia Bloomer”. Ok, a woman going out in “public” (ie, on TV) would certainly have shocked 19th century Susan (as would most of the 20th century), but you can’t say she doesn’t have a well documented history of endorsing women wearing comfortale underwear. Who knows, maybe she’s up in Feminist Heaven looking at that ad (on Feminist Heaven cable, of course) and thinking “Thank god, no more corsets”. On the other hand, I’ve have no idea what Betsy Ross’s take on it would be. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213/38 "2003-07-24T13:10:03Z")
Okay, “I am Amelia Bloomer” would be funny. And I can see your point about the suffragettes and comfy undies. But SBA as a sex goddess? Maybe if she had all her teeth her cheeks wouldn’t have been so sunken. And maybe a smile wouldn’t kill her–Stanton had a radiant smile. Maybe it’d work. Coming soon to a TV near you, the latest Bud Girl, **Carrie Nation**! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-actually-see-this-ad/190213.md?page=1)