# Did I ever tell you about the time mswas met Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577 "2009-08-25T00:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/201 "2009-08-26T14:49:52Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > You guys don’t represent a chisel on my armor, a light sandpaper at best. See, that right there is all I’m talking about: “I’m so far above you, you’re less than gnats to me.” There’s hardly a post from you that’s free of this attitude; as I said, even in a discussion about something as inconsequential as a bloody TV series plot, you felt the need to inform everybody of your superiority. It’s got nothing to do with that being an insult to anybody, it just comes across as childish and insecure. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/202 "2009-08-26T14:51:01Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Nothing binds the groupthink together like a common enemy. Again, you claim oppression because we don’t accept your superstitious belief in magic without question. You are simply afraid to examine your own views and are lashing out instead. You are pathetic. Maybe there is a meridian you can massage to change that? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/203 "2009-08-26T14:52:19Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > See, that right there is all I’m talking about: “I’m so far above you, you’re less than gnats to me.” There’s hardly a post from you that’s free of this attitude; as I said, even in a discussion about something as inconsequential as a bloody TV series plot, you felt the need to inform everybody of your superiority. It’s got nothing to do with that being an insult to anybody, it just comes across as **childish and insecure**. Bolding mine. That’s a good way to put it. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/204 "2009-08-26T14:53:50Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Ah. Hence my confusion - most people here try to be _clever_ when expressing contempt. That would be still trying to impress your foes. I am trying to suck all the satisfaction out of this for you. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/205 "2009-08-26T14:55:13Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > See, that right there is all I’m talking about: “I’m so far above you, you’re less than gnats to me.” There’s hardly a post from you that’s free of this attitude; as I said, even in a discussion about something as inconsequential as a bloody TV series plot, you felt the need to inform everybody of your superiority. It’s got nothing to do with that being an insult to anybody, it just comes across as childish and insecure. When and where did I ever say I was not an arrogant prick? I am an arrogant prick. I try very hard to be an arrogant prick only to other arrogant pricks. You know like gangbangers, don’t involve civilians, don’t bring people into the game who aren’t playing it. 😉 That sort of thing. You have a very strange definition of ‘everybody’. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/206 "2009-08-26T14:59:55Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > When and where did I ever say I was not an arrogant prick? I am an arrogant prick. I try very hard to be an arrogant prick only to other arrogant pricks. You know like gangbangers, don’t involve civilians, don’t bring people into the game who aren’t playing it. 😉 That sort of thing. > > You have a very strange definition of ‘everybody’. That post is especially weird if you mentally read it in the voice of a sobbing child. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/207 "2009-08-26T14:59:57Z")
A dozen or two people who I have offended on a message board of 85,132 is ‘everybody’. I’m glad you guys think so highly of yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/208 "2009-08-26T15:01:11Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > That would be still trying to impress your foes. I am trying to suck all the satisfaction out of this for you. Actually, you could do that by not responding. As long as you do in what has become (or perhaps always was) your characteristic style, you keep supplying us with new material. I admit that one of your responses might actually make me chuckle in a positive way. I mean, there are so many of them, eventually one _has_ to, right? I promise to publicly comment and compliment accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/209 "2009-08-26T15:04:50Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I am trying to suck all the satisfaction out of this for you. By intentionally being sad and pathetic? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/210 "2009-08-26T15:09:36Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > When and where did I ever say I was not an arrogant prick? I am an arrogant prick. How big of you to admit to this. Truly, I am overwhelmed by awe at the sharpness of your insight into yourself. > [@](#): > > I try very hard to be an arrogant prick only to other arrogant pricks. Ever tried just _not_ being an arrogant prick? > [@](#): > > You know like gangbangers, don’t involve civilians, don’t bring people into the game who aren’t playing it. 😉 That sort of thing. That’s the moral role model you aspire to? Well, careful not to aim too high, there… > [@](#): > > You have a very strange definition of ‘everybody’. What, are you now actually going to get on my case because I left out some qualifier like ‘reading the thread’ or ‘on the Straight Dope’ or even ‘with internet access and able to read’? Do you really want to get that petty? ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/211 "2009-08-26T15:12:37Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Ever tried just _not_ being an arrogant prick? Well, there was that one time when he was beating his wife… ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/212 "2009-08-26T15:22:51Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Ever tried just _not_ being an arrogant prick? Have you? I’m mean you’re here in the mud. > [@](#): > > That’s the moral role model you aspire to? Well, careful not to aim too high, there… More idiocy. > [@](#): > > What, are you now actually going to get on my case because I left out some qualifier like ‘reading the thread’ or ‘on the Straight Dope’ or even ‘with internet access and able to read’? Do you really want to get that petty? No, you think that your opinion of me should be the sole arbiter of what I care about. You think that the jugheads in this thread are people who I should view as role models. Half of these people go out and pick on people other than me daily. **KidChameleon** Just can’t resist can ya? You know what’s great about picking on you assholes? My temper doesn’t flare up in real life! It’s a win/win for everyone. Self-righteous assholes like yourself get to feel superior to someone. Which is why y’all post here in the first place right and I get to pick on people who deserve it. YAY!!! We all win! We clearly have very different ethical ideas. I throw out childish insults at people on an internet message board, and you go for the gut and try to bring up someone’s real heartache and pain. And that’s why I have such contempt. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/213 "2009-08-26T15:23:54Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > By intentionally being sad and pathetic? Whatever works right? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/214 "2009-08-26T15:28:27Z")
Yes my first wife left me because I hit her. It’s the greatest regret of my life, yes I’m still broken up about it, and yes if making me cry is your goal it’s a great way to do it. But I’m not crying because you have a low opinion of me. I don’t give a fuck about your opinion of it. I care about her opinion of it, she left me, and that hurts. Trying to draw some false equivalency to cavalier mudslinging with other cavalier mudslingers is nonsense. So go ahead, get actually deeply personal, feel free. You’ll notice that I don’t do that to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/215 "2009-08-26T15:31:08Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yes my first wife left me because I hit her. It’s the greatest regret of my life, yes I’m still broken up about it, and yes if making me cry is your goal it’s a great way to do it. But I’m not crying because you have a low opinion of me. I don’t give a fuck about your opinion of it. I care about her opinion of it, she left me, and that hurts. Trying to draw some false equivalency to cavalier mudslinging with other cavalier mudslingers is nonsense. > > So go ahead, get actually deeply personal, feel free. You’ll notice that I don’t do that to anyone. Deflect, deflect. Pew pew. You’re like Wonder Woman with the bracelets. Pew pew. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/216 "2009-08-26T15:32:02Z")
Funny, I would have assumed kidchameleon didn’t know or cared that you’d had a wife, but I admit I don’t know what past conversations you and he might have had. And actually, as I read his post, it was a dig at Half Man, Half Wit, not mswas. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/217 "2009-08-26T15:36:24Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Funny, I would have assumed kidchameleon didn’t know or cared that you’d had a wife, but I admit I don’t know what past conversations you and he might have had. Nope, I’ve talked about it on this message board. He likes to bring it up. And he is the perfect example of why I don’t give a fuck about the opinions of most of you. He’s just the nastiest. For the most part the people in this thread and I are cut from the same cloth. As I see it I am arguing with a bunch of hypocrites. Look at **Lobohan** ’s response just there. I have been ignoring most, but I figured I’d see just how he would respond to it and he showed me exactly where he stands. There is real malice here toward me, and the reality is that most of you make fun of and denigrate people in exactly the same ways you are accusing me of. None of you has hit home and exposed something about myself that I didn’t already know. Not a one, no insightful psychoanalysis going on in this thread. So my response to all of you. You want me to stop being so condescending? You first. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/218 "2009-08-26T15:39:52Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Nope, I’ve talked about it on this message board. He likes to bring it up. And he is the perfect example of why I don’t give a fuck about the opinions of most of you. He’s just the nastiest. Well, I’ll take your word for it, but it struck me as a moderately clever spoof of Half Man Half Wit’s loaded question with a variant on the classic loaded question. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/219 "2009-08-26T15:41:04Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, I’ll take your word for it, but it struck me as a moderately clever spoof of Half Man Half Wit’s loaded question with a variant on the classic loaded question. I know, and I could’ve played it that way, but why lie? I did it and if you want to look down on me or not for it that’s your prerogative. Besides I think he’s got the post bookmarked. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/220 "2009-08-26T15:48:39Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Have you? I’m mean you’re here in the mud. The thing is, your argument is essentially that you’re arrogant because _they_ were arrogant _first_. A very nice little evasive tactic, enabling you to shift the blame for your own personal flaws to other people, allowing your self-image to go untarnished, but unfortunately without much weight, since a) this thread wouldn’t be here if people hadn’t perceived your arrogance in the first place, and b) ‘but _he_ started it!’ ceased to be a valid argument the day you entered kindergarten. ‘No u!’-type rebuttals aren’t going to help your case any, either. > [@](#): > > No, you think that your opinion of me should be the sole arbiter of what I care about. No, I actually think your opinion of yourself should be a bit more informed, and was offering data. > [@](#): > > You think that the jugheads in this thread are people who I should view as role models. Half of these people go out and pick on people other than me daily. Again, how exactly do you think the actions (and failings) of other people justify yours? I’m really trying not to bring up something involving killing Jews and Hitler, but I have only so much restraint… And FTR, I also thought that **kidchameleon** was merely offering a play on the popular inescapable dilemma ‘have you stopped beating your wife yet?’, insinuating I was offering you a similarly poisoned choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577.md?page=12)