# Did I ever tell you about the time mswas met Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577 "2009-08-25T00:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/221 "2009-08-26T15:51:50Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > The thing is, your argument is essentially that you’re arrogant because _they_ were arrogant _first_. A very nice little evasive tactic, enabling you to shift the blame for your own personal flaws to other people, allowing your self-image to go untarnished, but unfortunately without much weight, since a) this thread wouldn’t be here if people hadn’t perceived your arrogance in the first place, and b) ‘but _he_ started it!’ ceased to be a valid argument the day you entered kindergarten. ‘No u!’-type rebuttals aren’t going to help your case any, either. So you are shifting blame too then? The people here who I have offended who have also offended me aren’t shifting blame but I am? Nice little double-standard you have there. I’ve been going the rounds with **Bryan Ekers** for literally years. If you think this little side project is the first salvo then you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. > [@](#): > > No, I actually think your opinion of yourself should be a bit more informed, and was offering data. Well when you find something I don’t already know let me know. > [@](#): > > Again, how exactly do you think the actions (and failings) of other people justify yours? I’m really trying not to bring up something involving killing Jews and Hitler, but I have only so much restraint… LOL, whatever. > [@](#): > > And FTR, I also thought that **kidchameleon** was merely offering a play on the popular inescapable dilemma ‘have you stopped beating your wife yet?’, insinuating I was offering you a similarly poisoned choice. Yep, well he wasn’t. He was trying to actually dig and inevitably he would have pulled up the link he has bookmarked like he’s done a few times in the past. So fuck it. A whole bunch of people who have low opinions of me and think I should conform to their tastes can think low of me for something that actually really matters. I guess that’s better than the trivial nonsense you’ve been going on about for days now. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/222 "2009-08-26T15:52:57Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Look at **Lobohan** ’s response just there. I have been ignoring most, but I figured I’d see just how he would respond to it and he showed me exactly where he stands. There is real malice here toward me, and the reality is that most of you make fun of and denigrate people in exactly the same ways you are accusing me of. Uh huh. Grow up and debate like an adult and not a toddler throwing a tantrum and maybe we’ll get somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/223 "2009-08-26T15:53:55Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Uh huh. Grow up and debate like an adult and not a toddler throwing a tantrum and maybe we’ll get somewhere. You first. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/224 "2009-08-26T15:55:40Z")
God what a terrible person you are… ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/225 "2009-08-26T15:58:24Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > God what a terrible person you are… no u ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/226 "2009-08-26T15:59:59Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > no u Honestly I don’t know anything about Gustav outside of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/227 "2009-08-26T16:03:19Z")
Isn’t that a good thing? At least I’m not stalking you. But based on this thread you’re an absolutely worthless, horrible human being. And that’s an unbiased opinion. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/228 "2009-08-26T16:08:15Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > Isn’t that a good thing? At least I’m not stalking you. But based on this thread you’re an absolutely worthless, horrible human being. And that’s an unbiased opinion. Ok, you are welcome to that belief, and that was **kidchameleon** ’s goal when he said what he said. I still don’t care about your opinion of me. It’s kind of funny how making fun of loony conservatives brought all this vitriole out. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/229 "2009-08-26T16:12:09Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > So you are shifting blame too then? The people here who I have offended who have also offended me aren’t shifting blame but I am? Wait, what? That doesn’t even make any sense! For what am I shifting blame, and onto whom? I’m blaming you for your own behaviour, that’s all, and right now at least I haven’t got any beef with anybody else. For my own idiocy to step into this dungpile in the first place, I fully accept responsibility. > [@](#): > > Nice little double-standard you have there. I’ve been going the rounds with **Bryan Ekers** for literally years. If you think this little side project is the first salvo then you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. I don’t actually give a shit if you two have just met or have been taking turns stuffing things up each other’s ass in public toilets for the last decade, and I’m also not sure what it’s supposed to matter whether or not I do. > [@](#): > > Well when you find something I don’t already know let me know. Well, besides the fact that I, mere mortal, obviously never could tell _you_ something you don’t know, the problem is not what you know or not, or even how you are or aren’t, but how you behave and come across. The impression you make. This whole thing may actually just be an elaborate postmodern piece of performance art, with your secret designs guiding and influencing all of us hapless dupes according to the whims of your genius, but that doesn’t change the fact that you come across as a bit of a prick. The emperor’s still nude even if he knows it. Anyway, you seem to be comfortable with yourself, a state few people ever reach, so perhaps you’re doing something right and in the end, delusion is the way to go; in the meantime, though, I have more worthwhile things to waste my time on. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/230 "2009-08-26T16:18:33Z")
The suicide-by-mod in MPSIMS and ATMB is an entertaining diversion. You don’t know the meaning of the phrase “in good faith,” do you **mswas**? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/231 "2009-08-26T16:19:47Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Wait, what? That doesn’t even make any sense! For what am I shifting blame, and onto whom? I’m blaming you for your own behaviour, that’s all, and right now at least I haven’t got any beef with anybody else. For my own idiocy to step into this dungpile in the first place, I fully accept responsibility. The people I act like that to are people who act like that to me. What part of that is so confusing to you? Again, “That’s not what I said, read it again.”, isn’t an insult. > [@](#): > > I don’t actually give a shit if you two have just met or have been taking turns stuffing things up each other’s ass in public toilets for the last decade, and I’m also not sure what it’s supposed to matter whether or not I do. I don’t even know why the fuck you are here or why the fuck you care. Did I act like this to you once undeservedly and it really hurt your feelings or something? If you can show that it happened and you didn’t deserve it I’ll apologize I promise. > [@](#): > > Well, besides the fact that I, mere mortal, obviously never could tell _you_ something you don’t know, the problem is not what you know or not, or even how you are or aren’t, but how you behave and come across. The impression you make. This whole thing may actually just be an elaborate postmodern piece of performance art, with your secret designs guiding and influencing all of us hapless dupes according to the whims of your genius, but that doesn’t change the fact that you come across as a bit of a prick. The emperor’s still nude even if he knows it. I don’t know why you think this Junior psycho-analysis is so brilliant. This is HS level shit you’re throwing at me. I am listening to what you’re saying, I have heard all the evidence, and I don’t give a fuck. It’s not because I don’t understand you. What was it **begbert2** said that you thought was so brilliant? It’s not that I misunderstand you it’s that I misappreciate you? > [@](#): > > Anyway, you seem to be comfortable with yourself, a state few people ever reach, so perhaps you’re doing something right and in the end, delusion is the way to go; in the meantime, though, I have more worthwhile things to waste my time on. No, actually I am incredibly insecure and neurotic. Just not for the reasons you are harping on. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/232 "2009-08-26T16:20:52Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > The suicide-by-mod in MPSIMS and ATMB is an entertaining diversion. You don’t know the meaning of the phrase “in good faith,” do you **mswas**? Yes, In Good Faith: If you are trashing a conservative it’s ok. If you are talking about a liberal it’s not. I am very aware of it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/233 "2009-08-26T16:21:08Z")
There’s an MPSIMS thread, too? I didn’t know. Clearly my stalking skills are in question. And I see I missed my chance, though I’m honestly not sure if I would have bothered posting to it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/234 "2009-08-26T16:23:02Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yes, > > In Good Faith: If you are trashing a conservative it’s ok. If you are talking about a liberal it’s not. > > I am very aware of it. Neither in MPSIMS, you dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/235 "2009-08-26T16:25:53Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Ok, you are welcome to that belief, and that was **kidchameleon** ’s goal when he said what he said. I still don’t care about your opinion of me. I know I said I was out, but just this one thing – doesn’t this bother your at all? I mean, there’s a rough 40 people in this thread, and I don’t recall anybody saying anything to the effect of ‘oh, c’mon, he’s not such a bad dude after all!’ Doesn’t this at least give you pause? An indication that, well, maybe you should rethink your demeanor? And is it really all that healthy if it doesn’t? I know I’d be a bit shocked, but perhaps I’m just that much more delicate a flower… ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/236 "2009-08-26T16:33:20Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Neither in MPSIMS, you dipshit. [ [quote=“RTFirefly, post:7, topic:404208”] And there was much rejoicing. :)]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420957&highlight=Jerry+Falwell](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420957&highlight=Jerry+Falwell)) > [@Jerry Falwell is dead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-falwell-is-dead/404208/8): > > :smack: Of course. > Sorry all. One religious nut-job is as “good” as the next in my mind. > [@Jerry Falwell is dead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-falwell-is-dead/404208/10): > > It couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy. > [@Jerry Falwell is dead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-falwell-is-dead/404208/13): > > This calls for a party! > [@Jerry Falwell is dead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-falwell-is-dead/404208/40): > > He was a part of my childhood. He was not a part I’ll miss. > > I won’t say he didn’t have an influence on me–after hearing of his death I donated some money to the local Gay-Straight Alliance. ORLY? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/237 "2009-08-26T16:34:53Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I know I said I was out, but just this one thing – doesn’t this bother your at all? I mean, there’s a rough 40 people in this thread, and I don’t recall anybody saying anything to the effect of ‘oh, c’mon, he’s not such a bad dude after all!’ Doesn’t this at least give you pause? An indication that, well, maybe you should rethink your demeanor? And is it really all that healthy if it doesn’t? I know I’d be a bit shocked, but perhaps I’m just that much more delicate a flower… I think about it but the reality is that most of the people who posted here are assholes similarly. In other threads where people piled on me some people did. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/238 "2009-08-26T16:38:35Z")
In deference to the passing of Sen. Kennedy, you should let this thread die. No? OK, how about to honor our troops? Because Hyrdox are better than Oreos? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/239 "2009-08-26T16:44:37Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > In deference to the passing of Sen. Kennedy, you should let this thread die. No? OK, how about to honor our troops? Because Hyrdox are better than Oreos? See that’s the thing. Why is it MY responsibility to let the thread die? Why don’t YOU? I mean you have just as much power over it as I do. You (collectively) could get off my ass and go about your lives just as easily, but it’s prurient interest that keeps you here. The bleeting of sheep who are trying to tell me they are better than me while playing in the same mud is unconvincing. I envy you, you get to be an asshole all the time but because you are witty you’re loved rather than hated. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/240 "2009-08-26T16:48:52Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Why is it MY responsibility to let the thread die? Well, you claimed ownership of the thread at least twice. That should carry _some_ responsibility. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577.md?page=13)