# Did I ever tell you about the time mswas met Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577 "2009-08-25T00:33:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/241 "2009-08-26T16:56:47Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, you claimed ownership of the thread at least twice. That should carry _some_ responsibility. Well then it’s my responsibility to get you off of my lawn sucka! It’s not like you guys would stop shit-talking me if I left. So why would I give you the satisfaction? You’re no less condescending than I am. **Mhendo** called my caring about Mary Jo Kopechne ‘delusions about Ted Kennedy’. I am beginning to realize that I work with a completely different value system than most of the people on this board. Because to me that’s light years more condescending than, “You don’t understand what I am saying.”, or even calling you a moron when I get frustrated because you keep misquoting me after I’ve tried to explain my point 50 times. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/242 "2009-08-26T17:02:02Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Well then it’s my responsibility to get you off of my lawn sucka! Well, you _claimed_ ownership. That doesn’t make it so. > [@](#): > > It’s not like you guys would stop shit-talking me if I left. Well, give it a shot. I won’t be weighing in personally on the Kennedy issue, incidentally. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/243 "2009-08-26T17:03:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, you _claimed_ ownership. That doesn’t make it so. You’re just a plebe who’s gotten to big for his britches. You built this house on commission. 😉 > [@](#): > > Well, give it a shot. I won’t be weighing in personally on the Kennedy issue, incidentally. I can’t, I’ll get banned. We just have VERY different ideas of condescension. Well maybe not you and I because you haven’t really been getting into the ‘mswas you are condescending and a meaniehead.’ game. I think you are self-aware enough to realize that it’s a two way street. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/244 "2009-08-26T17:11:11Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > The people I act like that to are people who act like that to me. What part of that is so confusing to you? How that equates to me shifting any blame onto anybody, and how it justifies your own actions. ‘He did it first’ doesn’t give you a free ticket. > [@](#): > > Again, “That’s not what I said, read it again.”, isn’t an insult. I was at pains earlier to point out how it’s not about anybody being insulted, but purely about your own behaviour. > [@](#): > > I don’t know why you think this Junior psycho-analysis is so brilliant. This is HS level shit you’re throwing at me. Hell, I don’t even know what you’re on about anymore. I didn’t even make any attempts at analysis or anything like it, and indeed explicitly stated that I couldn’t give a crap about your reasons and hidden motives and whatnot – I can’t know them, I don’t care about them, but I see how you behave and carry yourself. > [@](#): > > No, actually I am incredibly insecure and neurotic. Just not for the reasons you are harping on. I didn’t give any reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/245 "2009-08-26T17:13:06Z")
I can’t understand enough of mswas’s last post to form a specific response. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/246 "2009-08-26T17:16:09Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > How that equates to me shifting any blame onto anybody, and how it justifies your own actions. ‘He did it first’ doesn’t give you a free ticket. Your fundamental mistake is that you think I need to justify my actions. That’s where you are confused. If someone doesn’t understand me I am not going to pretend like their mutilation of my viewpoint is accurate. > [@](#): > > I was at pains earlier to point out how it’s not about anybody being insulted, but purely about your own behaviour. _sigh_ It is about people being insulted. A lot of people agree with me and point it out regularly. **Miller** has often pointed out that people really do not understand what I am saying, and **The Hamster King** has come up with some pretty good posts translating for me. > [@](#): > > Hell, I don’t even know what you’re on about anymore. I didn’t even make any attempts at analysis or anything like it, and indeed explicitly stated that I couldn’t give a crap about your reasons and hidden motives and whatnot – I can’t know them, I don’t care about them, but I see how you behave and carry yourself. I’m not on about anything. It’s all of you who have the problem and you are acting like it’s me who has the problem. You don’t like me and it bothers you that I can live with that. You are going on with an analysis. You are trying to tell me, “I don’t get it.”, so this paragraph is just a bunch of bullshit. > [@](#): > > I didn’t give any reasons. Stop means go, 2+2=5 :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/247 "2009-08-26T17:24:49Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > It’s all of you who have the problem and you are acting like it’s me who has the problem. Denial, thy name is **mswas**. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/248 "2009-08-26T17:27:44Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Denial, thy name is **mswas**. What denial? Would I be here in this Pit thread that I didn’t start arguing when there is no one to argue with? Seriously. People are saying I should ignore people who bother me and chill out. Why shouldn’t they ignore me and chill out? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/249 "2009-08-26T17:29:46Z")
Don’t ask me, I’m just one of the all the rest of us with a problem. How would I know? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/250 "2009-08-26T17:34:22Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Don’t ask me, I’m just one of the all the rest of us with a problem. How would I know? I don’t know. It’s sort of a strange obsession for you guys to care so much about me. 😛 I mean after all I wouldn’t be condescending to you if you weren’t here trash talking. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/251 "2009-08-26T17:36:37Z")
Not really. Calling it an “obsession” is likely overstatement, but criticizing the behaviour of another poster is fairly common around here. I suppose if there were five or six threads criticizing you, you might have a better case, but this one is really just a continuation of a thread you yourself started. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/252 "2009-08-26T17:40:33Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Not really. Calling it an “obsession” is likely overstatement, but criticizing the behaviour of another poster is fairly common around here. I suppose if there were five or six threads criticizing you, you might have a better case, but this one is really just a continuation of a thread you yourself started. No it isn’t. We aren’t even talking about the topic of the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/253 "2009-08-26T17:46:22Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > No it isn’t. We aren’t even talking about the topic of the other thread. Your insights into Obama and/or right-wing SDMB members aren’t original or witty enough to sustain a thread. Your jerkishness, however, is more than adequate. Had that thread not been locked at your request, I believe it would resemble this one, since a dopgile of you is where it was headed. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/254 "2009-08-26T17:47:37Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Your insights into Obama and/or right-wing SDMB members aren’t original or witty enough to sustain a thread. Your jerkishness, however, is more than adequate. Had that thread not been locked at your request, I believe it would resemble this one, since a dopgile of you is where it was headed. Yes, it was moved to the Pit unfortunately. I think that’s because **Twickster** isn’t very bright and thought I was making fun of St. Obama. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/255 "2009-08-26T17:48:01Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Not really. Calling it an “obsession” is likely overstatement, but criticizing the behaviour of another poster is fairly common around here. I suppose if there were five or six threads criticizing you, you might have a better case, but this one is really just a continuation of a thread you yourself started. At what point will you, and the few remaining people trying to have a discussion with this guy, realize you’re just feeding his ego? Come on, just let him go on talking to himself if he likes. You’re not helping anybody. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/256 "2009-08-26T17:50:54Z")
Sorry, are you under the impression I’m doing this to be helpful? When I want to be helpful, I’ll dig a well in some village in one of those loser countries. For now, mswas is just my current yarn-ball. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/257 "2009-08-26T17:59:36Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Sorry, are you under the impression I’m doing this to be helpful? When I want to be helpful, I’ll dig a well in some village in one of those loser countries. For now, mswas is just my current yarn-ball. You’re the only one who gets it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/258 "2009-08-26T18:18:43Z")
Well, joy to me. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/259 "2009-08-26T18:23:11Z")
My, my, how things go in on my absence! I wonder if they would keep going on in **mswas** ’s absence? Let’s see, how shall I restart the ball? Pitying **mswas** for his shortsighted and rather incorrect view of atheists as roving bands of thugs? Mocking **mswas** for his martyr complex? Riffing on **mswas** ’s “everyone I’m mean to is a prick, and not because I’m a prick to them first _oh no_” attitude, and how it’s blatantly oblivious to the fact that the way he accumulates new critics is because people occasionally read posts _other_ than the ones he addresses specifically to them? Calling his mother a whore apropo of nothing to see whether he claims it’s true and I’m using it as a subtle (and serious!) attack on him? So many possibilities! Any suggestions people? I don’t want to miss the chance to be an asshole to him, since it’s not like I’m going to be a “fuckhead” to him in every thread I find him in, despite his “pity me!” protests that everyone here is his dire and mortal enemy. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/260 "2009-08-26T18:25:13Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > My, my, how things go in on my absence! I wonder if they would keep going on in **mswas** ’s absence? > > Let’s see, how shall I restart the ball? Pitying **mswas** for his shortsighted and rather incorrect view of atheists as roving bands of thugs? > > Mocking **mswas** for his martyr complex? > > Riffing on **mswas** ’s “everyone I’m mean to is a prick, and not because I’m a prick to them first _oh no_” attitude, and how it’s blatantly oblivious to the fact that the way he accumulates new critics is because people occasionally read posts _other_ than the ones he addresses specifically to them? > > Calling his mother a whore apropo of nothing to see whether he claims it’s true and I’m using it as a subtle (and serious!) attack on him? > > So many possibilities! Any suggestions people? I don’t want to miss the chance to be an asshole to him, since it’s not like I’m going to be a “fuckhead” to him in every thread I find him in, despite his “pity me!” protests that everyone here is his dire and mortal enemy. Be careful or soon you’ll have more posts in my pit thread than your own. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577.md?page=14)