# Did I ever tell you about the time mswas met Obama?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577 "2009-08-25T00:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/161 "2009-08-25T23:32:41Z")

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It’s Ms. Was

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/162 "2009-08-25T23:44:26Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I don’t really see what cowardly has to do with anything. Yes, it is blissful willful ignorance of those who annoy the shit out of me. Do you have a point hidden amongst all that hyperbole?

Now who’s misunderstanding whose posts?

**begbert2** ’s point is that if the reason those posters in GD are annoying the shit out of you is because they’re making points that you can’t or won’t rebut, then that doesn’t reflect well on you at all. You can pretend all you like that they’re offending you on a personal level, but that doesn’t erase the fact that you’re covering for your lack of substance with contempt and airs.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/163 "2009-08-25T23:44:59Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> It’s a good thing I have servants to start threads for me.

Hate to inject facts and all, but even though you and I registered at around the same time, you’ve started 377 threads, and I’ve started (including this one) 55.

Anyway, feel free to crow that you compelled me to make a few mouse clicks to gather that information. The significance of this being the longest of my threads is, I would guess, that a lot of people find it fun to heap scorn on you. I know I do. You seem to enjoy receiving such scorn, so it’s good times all around.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/164 "2009-08-25T23:49:36Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Yes, it is blissful willful ignorance of those who annoy the shit out of me.

Well. If all your references to “hatecrush” have any meaning, getting someone to hate you is a victory. I don’t hate you, but I apparently do “annoy the shit out of” you. Therefore under the conditions you yourself have described, I win.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/165 "2009-08-25T23:50:04Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Now who’s misunderstanding whose posts?

Yeah, I don’t understand how it’s cowardly. All I hear are hollow words trying to make me feel like I am not macho or something because I have people on ignore.

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> **begbert2** ’s point is that if the reason those posters in GD are annoying the shit out of you is because they’re making points that you can’t or won’t rebut, then that doesn’t reflect well on you at all. You can pretend all you like that they’re offending you on a personal level, but that doesn’t erase the fact that you’re covering for your lack of substance with contempt and airs.

No, that’s not it at all. You can think that, he can think that, but that’s not it. They aren’t ‘offending’ me on a personal level they are annoying the crap out of me. Contempt sure but what airs are you talking about? I’m not pretending to not take any of you seriously. I really do not take you seriously. I don’t know why you feel the need to believe that my contempt is disingenuous. I really couldn’t give a shit whether you think I’m a coward, or whatever. I have been pitted for writing a joke that wasn’t very funny. This circus is beyond silly and I am treating it precisely as seriously as it warrants. My first post in this thread says precisely how I feel about it.

Why don’t you guys go read some Lacan and then come back and give your amateur psychoanalysis another try. I probably still won’t give a shit but at least your psychoanalysis will have progressed beyond the level of 15 year olds. ‘You’re only mad because really what they are saying is hitting home.’, that shit might work to cajole teenagers, it doesn’t work on me. It’s bullshit manipulation. What **begbert2** is saying is that if I don’t conform to a certain standard people who have no respect for me anyway will umm…not respect me. Uh…ok. So what?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/166 "2009-08-25T23:51:05Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Hate to inject facts and all, but even though you and I registered at around the same time, you’ve started 377 threads, and I’ve started (including this one) 55.
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> Anyway, feel free to crow that you compelled me to make a few mouse clicks to gather that information. The significance of this being the longest of my threads is, I would guess, that a lot of people find it fun to heap scorn on you. I know I do. You seem to enjoy receiving such scorn, so it’s good times all around.

Yeah that’s the long and short of it.

Yes I read your fucking post, get the fuck over it.

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> Well. If all your references to “hatecrush” have any meaning, getting someone to hate you is a victory. I don’t hate you, but I apparently do “annoy the shit out of” you. Therefore under the conditions you yourself have described, I win.

Actually you don’t annoy the shit out of me that much. I ignored you because you were posting by proxy for **Lobohan** who DOES annoy the shit out of me. Really if I do not like someone I don’t want them to love or hate me. I really don’t care what they think. He’s a jerkoff, why should I care what a jerkoff thinks?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/167 "2009-08-25T23:54:17Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> My first post in this thread says precisely how I feel about it.

So the sixty posts that followed it were, what, footnotes?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/168 "2009-08-25T23:54:18Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> This whole thread is dumb. It’s a Pit thread. You’re missing the fucking point man.

The point was…you felt compelled to deny that you were responding to him despite the fact that you obviously were and you knew it?

The point was that you cannot admit or concede anything that might potentially be percieved as weakness, or the sharks that are swirling around you will lunge in and tear you apart?

The point was to just say something, anything, because what the hell, this is the Pit, and we don’t have to make any sense here, 'cause in here it’s insanityland with whipped cream and taco shell bits on top?

(Honestly, I’d believe any of these at this point.)

> [@mswas](#):
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> I don’t really see what cowardly has to do with anything. Yes, it is blissful willful ignorance of those who annoy the shit out of me. Do you have a point hidden amongst all that hyperbole?

WHAT hyperbole? I mean, seriously? What am I exaggerating or distorting? ‘That word, I think it does not mean what you say it does.’

The point is that a blanket ignore of another poster is a cowardly baby tactic. It’s argumentum ad head-in-the-sandum. Clearly you don’t give a shit what other people think about you, so I suppose it’s cool beans to you, but I still find myself shaking my head in amazement that anybody could _utterly dismiss_ the notion that failing to address posts directed at them could be percieved in a negative light. I mean, we all love it when **lekatt** does it, right?

> [@mswas](#):
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> LOL. Think of it as removing temptation. 😉
> 
> Yeah, I used to have your attitude but I evolved.

Devolved, maybe. If you evolve, you find that you can rise above hostile posters and respond without undue rancor, _without_ having to wear peril-sensitive sunglasses to do so.

Or at least, that’s what the apparently-balanced people around me say, when they’re not tisking over my latest frenzied reaction to some percieved or imagined slight.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/169 "2009-08-25T23:55:07Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> So the sixty posts that followed it were, what, footnotes?

Rifftrax.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/170 "2009-08-25T23:56:15Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Rifftrax.

Oh, please, you _wish_ you were that funny.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/171 "2009-08-26T00:01:15Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Why don’t you guys go read some Lacan and then come back and give your amateur psychoanalysis another try. I probably still won’t give a shit but at least your psychoanalysis will have progressed beyond the level of 15 year olds. ‘You’re only mad because really what they are saying is hitting home.’, that shit might work to cajole teenagers, it doesn’t work on me. It’s bullshit manipulation. What **begbert2** is saying is that if I don’t conform to a certain standard people who have no respect for me anyway will umm…not respect me. Uh…ok. So what?

You wanna see bullshit manipulation, look for somebody trying to get people to stop pestering him by trying to convince them that responding to him in a negative manner implies lustful attraction with him, thereby to cause them to recoil in horror and question their own motives and/or sexual preferences and back off.

And, despite your best efforts, I consider it possible for people to lose _still more_ respect for you. Heck, I wouldn’t be comparing you to **lekatt** if I thought you had sunk to his level now would I?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/172 "2009-08-26T00:07:20Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> The point was…you felt compelled to deny that you were responding to him despite the fact that you obviously were and you knew it?

The point is that I am the only person in this thread whose opinion I care about with any weight.

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> The point was that you cannot admit or concede anything that might potentially be percieved as weakness, or the sharks that are swirling around you will lunge in and tear you apart?

Sort of. But it’s not like we’re having a sensitive heart to heart here, this is a Pit thread where I am being piled on by a bunch of fuckheads. You can view them as sharks and all that, and I did admit weakness. I said I am perfectly willing to believe that people’s inability to understand me comes from my writing deficiencies. I’ve said that to you before though, it never penetrates.

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> The point was to just say something, anything, because what the hell, this is the Pit, and we don’t have to make any sense here, 'cause in here it’s insanityland with whipped cream and taco shell bits on top?

Yeah, pretty much.

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> WHAT hyperbole? I mean, seriously? What am I exaggerating or distorting? ‘That word, I think it does not mean what you say it does.’

The whole cowardly thing. It’s hyperbole whether that is your intention or not, that’s what it is. You are exaggerating in order to elicit an emotional response.

> [@](#):
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> The point is that a blanket ignore of another poster is a cowardly baby tactic. It’s argumentum ad head-in-the-sandum. Clearly you don’t give a shit what other people think about you, so I suppose it’s cool beans to you, but I still find myself shaking my head in amazement that anybody could _utterly dismiss_ the notion that failing to address posts directed at them could be percieved in a negative light. I mean, we all love it when **lekatt** does it, right?

And here you jumped the shark. ‘It’s a cowardly baby tactic.’ I guess you’ve never been around babies much. They aren’t in the habit of ignoring people. Adults ignore people far more than children do.

It could be that I understand that it’s perceived in a negative light and have decided the rewards outweigh the risks. Ohnoes, you are going to compare me to **lekatt**! God forbid! I’ve been compared to \*\*lekatt \*\*before, it doesn’t bother me.

> [@](#):
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> Devolved, maybe. If you evolve, you find that you can rise above hostile posters and respond without undue rancor, _without_ having to wear peril-sensitive sunglasses to do so.

LOL, or I can just not worry about how putting people on ignore will be perceived. I think of it as screens in the windows. If I want to keep the mosquitoes out I put screens in the windows. Am I cowardly for not letting the mosquitoes in? Do you put your water through a brita filter? You coward! You’re afraid of whatever it is you’re filtering from your water. It’s no different from any other kind of filter. I’m reducing my exposure to garbage.

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> Or at least, that’s what the apparently-balanced people around me say, when they’re not tisking over my latest frenzied reaction to some percieved or imagined slight.

Ahh, I see. You should heed their advice. I’ll continue to not give a shit.

To be honest you guys really don’t seem to understand what bothers me. At least not consciously. I get far more annoyed by accusations that don’t apply than accusations that do. It’s not going to work in a Pit thread of course, you’d have to sneak it in if that sort of underhanded trolling is your thing.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/173 "2009-08-26T00:08:46Z")

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Hmmm, I have to admit that “Rifftrax” had the _potential_ to be a clever and witty response, and I did promise that I would acknowledge if mswas made one, but while I recognize the effort, it doesn’t quite gel. As I understand it, Rifftrax are side comments and observations about an independent exchange, i.e. a movie soundtrack stands on its own, but the Rifftrax are observations about that soundtrack made by outside observers to that soundtrack - if they are active participants, they lose that ironic detachment.

Anyway, in all honesty, I’m not analyzing your joke in an attempt to rationalize some way in which I can call it not funny. When I saw “Rifftrax”, it actually made me pause for several seconds. If a laugh is reflexive, my reaction here was more pensive, in reaction to a joke that was almost complete, but for some missing crucial element.

Again, I sincerely recognize the effort. It was very very close.

As an afterthought, I should point that although I know what Rifftrax are, I’ve never actually listened to one, so my response is not one of unfavourable comparison.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/174 "2009-08-26T00:17:13Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Oh, please, you _wish_ you were that funny.

I certainly wish that YOU were.

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> You wanna see bullshit manipulation, look for somebody trying to get people to stop pestering him by trying to convince them that responding to him in a negative manner implies lustful attraction with him, thereby to cause them to recoil in horror and question their own motives and/or sexual preferences and back off.

LOL, what does it have to do with sexuality? Did you think I actually took it seriously that they’d question their sexuality? The sexual comments were expressions of smug contempt. Unlike you I realize I am talking to adults who probably are in at least a certain posession of self-awareness and that it’s highly unlikely that I am going to do lasting damage to their sense of self.

I haven’t even begun to bullshit manipulate. Bullshit manipulation is something I am quite good at. 😉 There was this one bitch once who was nasty to everyone all the time, a right cunt. I parsed the data from her posts and came up with a profile of her. I guessed correctly what town she lived in and began to guess what her job was. The closer to the truth I got the more she freaked out. Now THAT was a manipulation job. I used all those tricks that you guys like to make fun of psychics for using. I did a cold reading over the internet. 😉 It was fun, she was such a bitch. Try imagining a combination of the worst characteristics of me and **Rubystreak** combined into one person. Heinous. She got all upset and said that I was threatening her. The only threat I made was that I would post her address on the internet. I never did of course but she believed I could do it and that’s what mattered.

Just to be clear I didn’t know who she was and I didn’t know her address nor did I make any real effort to acquire it.

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> And, despite your best efforts, I consider it possible for people to lose still more respect for you. Heck, I wouldn’t be comparing you to lekatt if I thought you had sunk to his level now would I?

Oh no, not like **lekatt** yet? I am so happy you’re here to save me from myself **begbert2**. When I start becoming like **Der Trihs** let me know, then I’ll check myself into the hospital.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/175 "2009-08-26T00:35:19Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> The point is that I am the only person in this thread whose opinion I care about with any weight.

And proud of it!

> [@mswas](#):
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> Sort of. But it’s not like we’re having a sensitive heart to heart here, this is a Pit thread where I am being piled on by a bunch of fuckheads. You can view them as sharks and all that, and I did admit weakness. I said I am perfectly willing to believe that people’s inability to understand me comes from my writing deficiencies. I’ve said that to you before though, it never penetrates.

Yeah, you do always seem to be blaming yourself when you criticize other people’s reading comprehension. Or wait, no you don’t.

> [@mswas](#):
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> Yeah, pretty much.

Try being less snarky and more insane, it’s more fun.

> [@mswas](#):
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> The whole cowardly thing. It’s hyperbole whether that is your intention or not, that’s what it is. You are exaggerating in order to elicit an emotional response.

Cowardly is a descriptive term that accurately describes the way I percieve argumentum ad head-in-the-sandum. It is not exaggerated. It is, therefore, not hyperbole.

> [@mswas](#):
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> And here you jumped the shark. ‘It’s a cowardly baby tactic.’ I guess you’ve never been around babies much. They aren’t in the habit of ignoring people. Adults ignore people far more than children do.

It was an insult. Not hyperbole, technically, but metaphor. Similarly, if I were perchance, to call you a shithead, then criticizing me based on the fact that your cranium is not actually made of fecal matter would similarly be missing (or dodging?) the point.

> [@mswas](#):
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> It could be that I understand that it’s perceived in a negative light and have decided the rewards outweigh the risks. Ohnoes, you are going to compare me to **lekatt**! God forbid! I’ve been compared to \*\*lekatt \*\*before, it doesn’t bother me.
> 
> LOL, or I can just not worry about how putting people on ignore will be perceived. I think of it as screens in the windows. If I want to keep the mosquitoes out I put screens in the windows. Am I cowardly for not letting the mosquitoes in? Do you put your water through a brita filter? You coward! You’re afraid of whatever it is you’re filtering from your water. It’s no different from any other kind of filter. I’m reducing my exposure to garbage.
> 
> Ahh, I see. You should heed their advice. I’ll continue to not give a shit.

Yes, we know, you think we’re all worthless scum, fuckheads, don’t care what we think, yaddah yaddah yaddah. How “evolved” of you.

You know what would work even better than ignore? DON’T POST HERE.

> [@mswas](#):
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> To be honest you guys really don’t seem to understand what bothers me. At least not consciously. I get far more annoyed by accusations that don’t apply than accusations that do. It’s not going to work in a Pit thread of course, you’d have to sneak it in if that sort of underhanded trolling is your thing.

I think I do understand you, and it certainly isn’t the insults that bother you. The attention whore in you clearly loves them - they validate that you’re better than all us “fuckheads”.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/176 "2009-08-26T00:45:01Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> LOL, what does it have to do with sexuality? Did you think I actually took it seriously that they’d question their sexuality? The sexual comments were expressions of smug contempt. Unlike you I realize I am talking to adults who probably are in at least a certain posession of self-awareness and that it’s highly unlikely that I am going to do lasting damage to their sense of self.

Ignore the ‘sexual’ bit, then. The rest is pretty dead on.

> [@mswas](#):
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> I haven’t even begun to bullshit manipulate. Bullshit manipulation is something I am quite good at. 😉 There was this one bitch once who was nasty to everyone all the time, a right cunt. I parsed the data from her posts and came up with a profile of her. I guessed correctly what town she lived in and began to guess what her job was. The closer to the truth I got the more she freaked out. Now THAT was a manipulation job. I used all those tricks that you guys like to make fun of psychics for using. I did a cold reading over the internet. 😉 It was fun, she was such a bitch. Try imagining a combination of the worst characteristics of me and **Rubystreak** combined into one person. Heinous. She got all upset and said that I was threatening her. The only threat I made was that I would post her address on the internet. I never did of course but she believed I could do it and that’s what mattered.
> 
> Just to be clear I didn’t know who she was and I didn’t know her address nor did I make any real effort to acquire it.

I’m, er proud of you? For your…um, brilliance? And, er, decisive cleverness?

> [@mswas](#):
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> Oh no, not like **lekatt** yet? I am so happy you’re here to save me from myself **begbert2**. When I start becoming like **Der Trihs** let me know, then I’ll check myself into the hospital.

Odds are you are beyond help. Seriously though, you’ll note that I was less critisizing your decision to use Ignore than remarking on my own difficulty in comprehending how a person could use it. Now I know - you’re a shithead\* with a superiority complex and no regard for your fellow posters or their opinions. That answers that question, eh?

And you aren’t likely to become like **Der Trihs**. He’s very loud and quite obnoxious, but when he gets irritated he just gets louder and more obnoxious, whereas you get pretentious and use dodgy logic and veiled ad-hominems. Personally I like his tactics better…though it’s still sometimes annoying having him arguing the same side as me. Though I _will_ note he seems to have improved a little lately, with a higher proportion of moderation in his posts now. I like to think that’s my positive influence on him. 😛

- Not literally.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/177 "2009-08-26T00:46:47Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> And proud of it!
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> Yeah, you do always seem to be blaming yourself when you criticize other people’s reading comprehension. Or wait, no you don’t.

Actually I have said so explicitly on a couple of occasions to you in particular. No I am not going to go find examples.

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> Try being less snarky and more insane, it’s more fun.

Heh, well, I’m a moody cuss. I will not have fulfilled my destiny until I have a porch, rocking chair, a shotgun and a lawn whose only purpose is for kids to get off of. 😉

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> Cowardly is a descriptive term that accurately describes the way I percieve argumentum ad head-in-the-sandum. It is not exaggerated. It is, therefore, not hyperbole.

Whatever. I don’t care if you think it’s a cowardly maneuver.

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> It was an insult. Not hyperbole, technically, but metaphor. Similarly, if I were perchance, to call you a shithead, then criticizing me based on the fact that your cranium is not actually made of fecal matter would similarly be missing (or dodging?) the point.

So you think I am a coward, what is the significance? What does it matter?

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> Yes, we know, you think we’re all worthless scum, fuckheads, don’t care what we think, yaddah yaddah yaddah. How “evolved” of you.

Nah, you’re alright. I don’t really care if you think I’m a coward, but I’m not exactly being a prick to you right now am I?

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> You know what would work even better than ignore? DON’T POST HERE.

You’re in my thread. Get off my lawn sucka!

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> I think I do understand you, and it certainly isn’t the insults that bother you. The attention whore in you clearly loves them - they validate that you’re better than all us “fuckheads”.

No, they don’t make me feel better than you. Better is not the correct word. I just simply enjoy pissing you off for your sense of entitlement. You want me to behave a certain way and I am not behaving that way. I’m not even being uncivil, but I’m not going to take **Lobohan** off of ignore. If I could ever remember Lobohan being insightful then I wouldn’t put him on ignore for anything, but I can’t remember him being insightful all I remember ever is thinking, “God this guy is a fucking moron.”, so it’s possible he was insightful and I didn’t recognize it. Honestly my awareness of his existence is a recent phenomena. I feel like he’s been harassing me for a while now but I’m not quite sure how long it is. I kind of lump a bunch of you atheists into a generic pile. You’ve recently distinguished yourself but I kind of think of it as like the atheist hive stinging me. I have as little respect for atheism as you do for theism by the way. I can respect agnosticism but atheism is pretentious bullshit most of the time. Especially the whole, “We’re an oppressed minority.”, shit that raises it’s head once in a while. Even the word irritates me. Atheist, someone who does not believe in God. I really can’t stand anyone whose identity is strongly rooted in opposing something. Generally the more passionate about one’s atheism a person is the less likely they and I are to get along. It’s really a hokey term, and the idea that you guys don’t travel in packs is fucking absurd.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/178 "2009-08-26T00:49:28Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Ignore the ‘sexual’ bit, then. The rest is pretty dead on.

Sure.

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> I’m, er proud of you? For your…um, brilliance? And, er, decisive cleverness?

Yeah me too. 😉

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> Odds are you are beyond help. Seriously though, you’ll note that I was less critisizing your decision to use Ignore than remarking on my own difficulty in comprehending how a person could use it. Now I know - you’re a shithead\* with a superiority complex and no regard for your fellow posters or their opinions. That answers that question, eh?

If you say so! I’m glad you were able to rationalize the answer you wanted to come up with!

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> And you aren’t likely to become like **Der Trihs**. He’s very loud and quite obnoxious, but when he gets irritated he just gets louder and more obnoxious, whereas you get pretentious and use dodgy logic and veiled ad-hominems. Personally I like his tactics better…though it’s still sometimes annoying having him arguing the same side as me. Though I _will_ note he seems to have improved a little lately, with a higher proportion of moderation in his posts now. I like to think that’s my positive influence on him. 😛

Yes, it’s all you. You are the redeemer. You’re like Jesus.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/179 "2009-08-26T00:54:35Z")

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I must confess I am a bit amused by all the smug accusations of smugness going around on these boards.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-the-time-mswas-met-obama/507577/180 "2009-08-26T02:12:02Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I pronounce it “Em-Ess Wuz”, pretty much the same way I pronounce MS-DOS, structurally speaking.

If you say it that way three times very slowly while looking into a dimly lit bathroom mirror, VERY bad things happen. Trust me on this.

I haven’t slept well for years now and I now keep a Ginsu knife under the pillow. I keep hearing scurrying sounds and seeing fleeting glimpses of fast moving shadows as I fall of to sleep every night…

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