Did I insult Native Americans today?

I’m *not *a lawyer, but it seemed to me that it was less the OP’s intention to cite the Great Spirit as a legal authority, and more an intent to make a rhetorical point using the quote in question to make an interesting opening to a following legal argument. Perhaps I don’t understand how this kind of mock oral works?

Depending on the manner of his oral delivery, I can see how the OP’s quote might possibly come off as smarmy or patronizing. But on the page (or the computer screen) I don’t see how it could necessarily be construed as offensive just in and of itself.

BTW, Qin Shi Huangdi is a Korean American?

Yes, despite the apparent Old French roots of his name. :wink:

Yeah, I’d’ve given him such a wampum myself.

Yes, and his original username was Curtis LeMay.

Meh, some people will be offended by anything. Doesn’t mean they’re right.

And as to “YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT!”, as a law student, I’m sure you could point exactly where she is wrong and that you do, in fact, have the right to say what you did.

Rhetorical points are just that. It is not the same thing as a legal point. It is a good rhetorical point. I’ll give it that. But it is beside the point legally. A non-sequitar.

Sure, I wouldn’t expect the OP to have got marked up for the point. But it’s not a non-sequitur; it’s apropos. Or at least the OP considers it to be based on their understanding of the quote’s context. I can’t speak to a legal argument, but i’ve certainly written essays and given oral arguments for a topic, and if nothing else a handy rhetorical point at the start of a presentation is helpful in attracting the interest of a professor who’ll likely be sitting through/reading a number of boring equivalents that day, even though you don’t get bonus points directly.
[QUOTE=Isamu]
And as to “YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT!”, as a law student, I’m sure you could point exactly where she is wrong and that you do, in fact, have the right to say what you did.
[/QUOTE]
I was about to suggest that the OP’s classmate might have been concerned with the moral or *ethical *rights to say such things; but then I remembered they’re law students. :wink:

There’s room for a certain amount of rhetorical flair in delivering legal argument, particularly oral argument, but I’ve been known to use it in briefs as well. Comes down to individual style, and what the lawyer is comfortable with using. You don’t want to overdo it, of course, but it can be effective if you pick your spots.

No wonder he’s such a feisty little guy. Also no wonder he may have been brought up to have no love lost for the Japanese. If a Jewish person has some bias against the Germans you might want to cut him a bit of slack, you know?

I’m not bothered by it but I’m not surprised other people would get their panties in a twist over it.

No.

Am I the only one who laughed?

What, I’m not allowed to quote The Bard now? Nobody is allowed to quote the Bible? Wait… that second one might actually be a good idea… ETA: Are we only allowed to

[quote]
posters from our own corner of the planet now? :stuck_out_tongue:

Hell, those sentences may even be originally in English (I’m not bothering to try and search), in which case how are you supposed to “not understand the meaning”, any more than you wouldn’t understand that of anybody else speaking your own language?

Nope!

Come now, Korean advertisers would never be so crass, would they?

Your classmate, IMO, is an idiot. Your professor was warning you to be careful of idiots like her.

Personally, I would have been tempted to ask her what gave her the right to be offended on the Native Americans’ behalf.

I’m picturing Kevin Costner reprising his role in “JFK” to do a Korean chewing gum commercial:

[Points at slo-mo movie screen] “Back . . . and to the left . . . and BURSTING WITH FLAVOR!”

Meh, I think people are overanalysing. I think the prof just meant that indian rights are a sensitive issue, and the quote sounds fairly bellicose (especially if you know Red Cloud fought a war against the US to keep his small spot of land). Some of the sillier judges (and there are some very silly judges) might take it as sounding vaguely threatening.

Next time open with a smallpox joke.

Somebody get the hook…