# Did Jacqueline Kennedy do anything for you? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 24, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653 "2013-11-24T01:55:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/41 "2013-11-25T00:31:44Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Uh, intheir [wedding photo](http://www.history.com/images/media/slideshow/dwight-d-eisenhower/dwight-d-eisenhower-wedding.jpg) she comes off as cute and fun. The young Ike with hair was, even to this jaded straight guy’s eyes, magnificent. Except for the hair, it looks like a still from “The King and I”. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/42 "2013-11-25T00:35:27Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > I was answering the question as asked, not from a stand point of how influential she was. Thank you. As for her class, she won my heart when a Secret Service guy in the car tried to pull her to safety when she climbed out on the trunk. “Mrs Kennedy! What are you doing?” “I’m picking up pieces of my husband’s head,” was her coolly snappish reply. Like Jack, she was as tough as nails. But this thread is intended to be far shallower than discussing what makes a woman a classy dame. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/43 "2013-11-25T00:41:11Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > The young Ike with hair was, even to this jaded straight guy’s eyes, magnificent. Ike was classmates at West Point with Gore Vidal’s father, who related his legendary status for having nailed the French instructor’s wife. That famous smile that never failed him. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/44 "2013-11-25T01:13:03Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > The same could be said about Princess Diana. Not a perfect beauty (big head, big nose), but so much younger and more with it than the Queen, Princess Margaret, and Princess Anne. People couldn’t help being dazzled by her golden hair. Strange though it might sound, I can assure you Diana was much prettier in person than in photos. Film did her no justice. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/45 "2013-11-25T06:46:56Z")
I’d always thought Jackie was very cultured, elegant and fashionable, but my estimation of her went way up a couple of years ago when her tapes with Arthur Schlesinger surfaced [http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article10051101.aspx:](http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article10051101.aspx:) > [@](#): > > Especially jarring to us Francophiles is her statement that Kennedy “you know, basically he didn’t like the French, and I loathe the French. There’s not one French person I can think of except maybe two very simple people…You know, they’re really not very nice. They’re all for themselves.” This will no doubt come as quite a surprise to the French, who worshiped Jack and Jackie. Also [http://www.france24.com/en/20110914-recorded-interviews-reveal-candid-critical-jacqueline-kennedy-opinionated-schlesinger:](http://www.france24.com/en/20110914-recorded-interviews-reveal-candid-critical-jacqueline-kennedy-opinionated-schlesinger:) > [@](#): > > “De Gaulle was my hero when I married Jack,” Jackie Kennedy confides. That changed quickly when she met the French leader in 1961 on a visit to Paris, when she found him to be an “egomaniac” and a “spiteful man”. And although she spoke fluent French and spent a year studying at the Sorbonne, her assessment of the French people in general is no kinder. “I loathe the French,” she admits in the interview. “They are not very nice, they are all for themselves.” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/46 "2013-11-25T16:33:43Z")
Jackie Kennedy was the kind of woman that other women thought was extremely attractive. Men, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/47 "2013-11-25T16:42:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > There are paparazzi shots of her au natural. Easily found with a search. > > She was well into her forties and looked very nice. I was unaware of these photos. She looks quite good. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/48 "2013-11-26T00:31:21Z")
> [@rowrrbazzle](#): > > …my estimation of her went way up a couple of years ago when her tapes with Arthur Schlesinger surfaced Since my “thing” is complaining\* about Canadians, not the French, I cannot in good conscience…aw, who am I kidding! That’s awesome, and raises her hotness immensely. - - All in good fun, y’know. I love even the Quebecois. Even that woman in Montreal who was the only person in the Department of Public Works/Direction des travaux publics I could find who spoke English and who answered my question about the sewers of Montreal with, “What is this word you use, ‘sewer?’” but who I forgave being a dolt because she sounded cute. Whatever else I am, I am shallow. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/49 "2013-11-26T01:33:12Z")
Classy? Who else ever wore pearls [to the photo booth?](http://www.retronaut.com/2012/06/jfk-and-jackie-in-a-photobooth-c-1953/) ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/50 "2013-11-26T18:46:23Z")
Super stylish, and imho, yes class. She dealt with some harsh life blows in a very quiet classy way. Other than that? I didn’t see her as some “OMG, look at how successful she’s been on her own, WOW what a woman”! All this “she’s a single mother who worked her way up the ranks” crap is crap. Ummm, she was married to a president and then to one of the wealthiest men in the world. So she had job, so what? How hard it is to be a successful magazine professional when you’re already famous and wealthy? ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/51 "2013-11-26T19:26:40Z")
I need to see a shot of all the first ladies in skin tight outfits before I can judge who’s hot or not. A pretty face in no way makes up for the right curves in the right places. In fact, it’s more the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653/52 "2013-11-26T19:56:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The contrast between Jackie and other prominent women is like the contrast between Princess Diana and Queen Elizabeth. But then some of you are too young to remember the impact of Princess Diana on the world of style either. \ Nobody’s denying that she (or Princess Diana) were stylish and iconic at all. Jacqueline Kennedy was undeniably classy and graceful as well. The question is whether or not she was attractive. I personally have never seen it; most any woman on TV is better looking, and has been for the past 40 years. I think it’s a combination of her style and grace combined with the fact that she didn’t look like someone’s grandmother or great aunt lent her a certain relative attractiveness, but in comparison to contemporary women, she wasn’t anything special at all in the looks dept. I mean, she wasn’t in the same league as other women considered beautiful or at least good looking who were about the same age - Grace Kelly, Anne Bancroft, Audrey Hepburn or Jane Powell come to mind as women who were actually attractive and born around 1930. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jacqueline-kennedy-do-anything-for-you/674653.md?page=2)