# Did Jim Steinman help write "Rocky Horror"?

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**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [August 19, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317 "2006-08-19T05:06:25Z")
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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/1 "2006-08-19T05:06:25Z")

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One of my many weaknesses is overwrought, bombastic pop, so I enjoy both Meatloaf and the soundtrack of the “Rocky Horror Picture Show,” though the movie itself bites the big one. Once, I heard someone suggest that Jim Steinman wrote the songs for “Rocky” as he does for Meatloaf and it was if I were thunderstruck–OF COURSE he did! It’s so obvious!

After sobering up, I’m not so sure, but the stylistic similarity is still striking. Am I huffing or is there some basis for that suspicion?

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### Author: ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/2 "2006-08-19T05:09:07Z")

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Ever hear of Richard O’Brien?

I have no idea why anyone would think Steinman wrote Rocky Horror.  
Please stop huffing or listening to huffers. Its dangerous.

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/3 "2006-08-19T05:20:14Z")

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> [@Push You Down](#):
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> Ever hear of Richard O’Brien?
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> I have no idea why anyone would think Steinman wrote Rocky Horror.  
> Please stop huffing or listening to huffers. Its dangerous.

[Richard O’Brien?](http://imageserver4.textamerica.com/user.images.x/61/IMG_443061/_0722/T52005072205244555.jpg)

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### Author: ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/4 "2006-08-19T05:26:30Z")

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Jim Sharman, who directed the movie, also wrote some of it. It was mostly written by Richard O’Brien though. I suspect the person who talked to you confused Jim Steinman and Jim Sharman.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/5 "2006-08-19T05:27:54Z")

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Richard O’Brien wrote _The Rocky Horror Show_ (the play which later became the movie _The Rocky Horror Picture Show_) in London in 1973. Jim Steinman was working on musicals at this same time but in New York. Steinman didn’t even meet Meat Loaf until 1974.

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### Author: ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/6 "2006-08-19T05:40:23Z")

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Perhaps the confusion came about because Jim Steinman wrote so many songs for Meat Loaf, who appeared in the movie.

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/7 "2006-08-19T06:21:11Z")

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And stole the song style? Not that nobody’s ever done that…

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### Author: ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/8 "2006-08-19T10:49:55Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And stole the song style? Not that nobody’s ever done that…

I’m not seeing the song styles as all that similar. Overblown isn’t really a style. The arrangements are different enough, and Steinman in funny mostly in the unintentional way.

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### Author: ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/9 "2006-08-19T12:58:05Z")

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Considering how much well Rocky Horror has made, and how badly Dance of the Vampire did, I bet Steinman wishes he’d written the former instead of the latter.

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### Author: ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2006, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-jim-steinman-help-write-rocky-horror/369317/10 "2006-08-19T13:26:49Z")

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> [@11811](#):
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> I’m not seeing the song styles as all that similar. Overblown isn’t really a style. The arrangements are different enough, and Steinman in funny mostly in the unintentional way.

I think the humor is very intentional.

I want you  
I need you  
but there ain’t no way I’m ever gonna love you  
Now don’t be sad  
two out of three ain’t bad

Is intentional – I’d put money on it.

He has a wicked and dry sense of humor and is a very talented writer.
