# Did Joe Buck overreact to Randy Moss? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2005, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033 "2005-01-10T12:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/21 "2005-01-10T19:18:48Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > That was the most disgusting thing I’ve seen on the Fox network since, um, uh, “Who’s Your Daddy?”. Thank you. I find any representative of Fox (Sports, Network, News, whatever) passing judgement on anything involving taste, class, or morality to be ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/22 "2005-01-10T19:40:02Z")
> [@Hal Briston](#): > > What disgusted me was Buck’s “Ha ha ha, look how much fun Brett Favre is having out there” when Favre made one of the stupidest, most boneheaded rookie mistakes I’ve ever seem him make. Inexplicably drawing an illegal forward pass penalty, ruining what would have most probably been a 4th and 1 on the 2 yard line is one thing – for Buck to laugh along like that just reinforces the perception that Favre can do absolutely no wrong. Fricking ridiculous. Hard to blame him, considering Favre had a grin on his face after the play. He likely was laughing at himself for making such a stupid mistake, but it wasn’t the garden-variety of stupid mistakes, but rather a Farve-esque improvisational play that just happened to be against the rules. I was pretty relieved that Buck handled that incident relatively tamely, compared to what John Madden would have said. (“That man just loves to play the game of FOOTBALL! He’s just down there having fun playing FOOTBALL!”) Although, come to think about it, I didn’t seem to care what people said about Favre during that game. Those four picks said all that needed to be said. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/23 "2005-01-10T19:46:14Z")
I guess he (Buck) apologized because there has been some huge fusses made over tasteless acts before or during football games – some things that are out of context for the NFL broadcast- more or less. When Moss did it, it seemed like slo-mo and there appeared to be more squatting than just mooning. A childish act and tastless. As to Buck:\*\* I think his verablization of his reaction was appropriate, because as a play-by-play guy, he has to blurt out what he sees and instill his emotion a bit. \*\* Even some great plays are worshipped as they happen love (Did you see that? No one else could make that spin!!) even though later on they are somewhat more ordinary in retrospect. This is why live action is always more enjoyable, because reactions are so pure (or should be when no one is biting their tongues). Good for Buck. I’d rather the host give me the talkin’ than have him edit himself. Buck was offended greatly and embarrassed on behalf of the broadcast team. That is good. Of COURSE different people would have different levels of emotion. We got Buck’s…honestly and straight up. ---
**Author:** ![Try\_As\_I\_Might](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Try\_As\_I\_Might](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try_As_I_Might)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/24 "2005-01-10T21:10:58Z")
IMHO, whether Randy Moss was pretending to wipe himself, acting like he was taking a growler on the field, or acting like he was mooning the fans as a response to the purported G.B. fans’ actions in the past, Moss’s actions were crass, tasteless, and inappropriate. That being said, I could really take a little less indignation from announcers that work for the network who has made a “living” off of the same. Anyway, I would much rather watch Moss make a legitimate ass out of himself (insert joke :eek: ) than watch one more damn erectile dysfunction commercial diring the season. This NFL program is brought to you by the good people at Levitra. Now two more minutes of medical warnings about a 4 hour erection. (Like anyone would complain anyway…) ---
**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/25 "2005-01-10T21:55:41Z")
> [@Try As I Might...](#): > > Anyway, I would much rather watch Moss make a legitimate ass out of himself (insert joke :eek: ) than watch one more damn erectile dysfunction commercial diring the season. I hear ya. Every time I see one of those, or the blasted other brand that uses freakin’ crappy prono movie music (Cealis, or how ever they spell it), I think back on tit-gate and wonder… If seeing, for a brief second, Jackson’s tit was damaging to America’s youth, what are these commercials doing to the children who are watching the game with dad? I mean, holy crap man… Some of those commercials are just as seedy as the “1-900” phonesex ads on latenight tv! Yeesh! NFL is brought to you by Levitra and Cealis. Strangely, baseball was brought to you by Viagra. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/26 "2005-01-10T22:29:36Z")
> [@Elenfair](#): > > I mean, holy crap man… Some of those commercials are just as seedy as the “1-900” phonesex ads on latenight tv! Yeesh! NFL is brought to you by Levitra and Cealis. Strangely, baseball was brought to you by Viagra. Well, baseball is a traditionalist’s sport. ---
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/27 "2005-01-10T22:47:43Z")
> [@Elenfair](#): > > I hear ya. Every time I see one of those, or the blasted other brand that uses freakin’ crappy prono movie music (Cealis, or how ever they spell it), I think back on tit-gate and wonder… If seeing, for a brief second, Jackson’s tit was damaging to America’s youth, what are these commercials doing to the children who are watching the game with dad? > > I mean, holy crap man… Some of those commercials are just as seedy as the “1-900” phonesex ads on latenight tv! Yeesh! NFL is brought to you by Levitra and Cealis. Strangely, baseball was brought to you by Viagra. You gotta admit, the commercial where the guy can’t get the football through the tire until he takes his boner-pill is a brilliant use of subtlety and nuance. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/28 "2005-01-10T23:25:32Z")
I thought this was gonna be about [Midnight Cowboy](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064665/combined) and I couldn’t remember a “Randy Moss” in the book or the movie. I don’t follow the sports… ---
**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/29 "2005-01-11T01:51:39Z")
I didn’t see the game, could someone fill me in on if the celebration was replayed during the game and how many times. When most things like this happen (e.g. “wardrobe malfunction”) there’s an announcer decrying the act, just before saying, “Let’s see that again.” It sounds to me like the Sky Sports announcers had the right idea. It’s like a little kid: causing a fuss and giving him a bunch of attention only reinforces the behavior; ignoring it or making him feel stupid (“He doesn’t get out much”) would be a better solution in my opinion. At the very least, at least people have a sense of humor about the situation (“What an idiot”) rather than having it dominate the news for a week with shrieks of the downfall of civilization. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/30 "2005-01-11T01:58:28Z")
> [@down by law](#): > > i don’t get offended by the stupid celebrations, i just feel sorry for the players that do it. it just makes them look moronic. the celebration rules are a little strict, like outlawing the colts little sway before kickoffs, but i’ll take that loss as long as it means i’ll never have to see someone pull out a cellphone or a sharpie again. that premeditated, prop stuff was insane. i just can’t believe these guys would plan all that beforehand. it’s pathetic, frankly. Sharpie? Cel phone? 😕 What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/31 "2005-01-11T02:03:48Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Sharpie? Cel phone? 😕 What am I missing? The Sharpie incident was when Owens pulled a Sharpie out of his sock, signed the ball, and gave it to someone in the stands. The cell phone had two guys lift the padding of the uprights, then the guy who scored the TD “talked” on it. Don’t remember who it was or which team. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/32 "2005-01-11T03:55:02Z")
As James Brown and the other members of the studio crew climbed over each other to register the most righteous indignation, I started wishing that one of them would just say, “Eh, whatever” – like maybe Howie Long, who probably witnessed and/or committed acts of depravity while playing for the Oakland Raiders that Randy Moss has yet to even imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Martiju](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Martiju](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martiju)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/33 "2005-01-11T12:06:07Z")
> [@Dignan](#): > > It sounds to me like the Sky Sports announcers had the right idea. It’s like a little kid: causing a fuss and giving him a bunch of attention only reinforces the behavior; ignoring it or making him feel stupid (“He doesn’t get out much”) would be a better solution in my opinion. Sky were suggesting that Buck needs to get out more if he thought that was such a disgusting act. My view, meh! Like you say, spoilt little kids are probably best off just being ignored. Mind you, in any major sports, you are bound to get the most egocentric and attention-seeking characters involved, and to some extent that’s what keeps people watching. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/34 "2005-01-11T12:17:14Z")
> [@sleeepy2](#): > > I think if Joe had not drawn attention to it, it would have passed largely unnoticed. Was anyone offended by this, and if so, why? No, it was not a big deal. The cynic in me wonders if the guys at FOX - particularly Buck and James Brown, who talked like this was the last act in a multi-state crime spree - realized if they could conjure up a controversy out of this, it might help their ratings. Chris Berman seemed offended Moss had done this at Lambeau Field. It’s a football stadium. 😛 If they were sincere in their moral outrage, these guys need to get real. I see some other people here already said what I thought: Moss acted like a child who wants attention. What do you do when a kid misbehaves to get attention? _Ignore him._ ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/35 "2005-01-11T14:34:18Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > The cell phone had two guys lift the padding of the uprights, then the guy who scored the TD “talked” on it. Don’t remember who it was or which team. Joe Horn of the Saints. Full video of the incident [here](http://www.cdol.com/saints/joecell.html). ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/36 "2005-01-11T16:07:20Z")
> [@sleeepy2](#): > > You gotta admit, the commercial where the guy can’t get the football through the tire until he takes his boner-pill is a brilliant use of subtlety and nuance. > :rolleyes: Not to mention the flame in those commercials that looks, oddly enough, like a vagina to me. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/37 "2005-01-11T16:46:17Z")
I personally could care less one way or another about Moss’ actions, it merits a strong “Eeeeh” on the weirddave scale, but what do you guys think of the reports (which I have seen confirmed several different places) that Moss got the idea from a group of Packer fans who traditionally moon the opposing team’s bus as it leaves the parking lot for the airport? That actually raises it to pretty funny in my book, after all, he’s just giving back what Cheeseheads have so generously given to him over the years! ---
**Author:** ![waits](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df788c/32.png) [@waits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waits)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/38 "2005-01-11T20:55:33Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > I think “disgusting” was a little strong. It was quite disrespectful, though. After he mimed mooning the fans, he rubbed his butt against the team logo on the goal post. Pretty darned rude. “Disrespectful” is the perfect word. Kind of like Fox’s cutting away from the moment of silence for Reggie White to go to a commercial. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033/39 "2005-01-11T21:03:42Z")
I don’t think Fox was cutting away from the moment of silence so much as they were cutting away from the idiots in the crowd who decided “Enough silence! Go Packers! Wooooo!!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-joe-buck-overreact-to-randy-moss/284033.md?page=1)