# Did Marley violate SDMB protocol here? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 8, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378 "2013-03-08T14:33:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/61 "2013-03-08T20:12:53Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I say this doesn’t happen. If you say it does, show me a few examples. I’ve said nothing of the sort. You came here claiming that you have encountered a rule not being observed. It is incumbent upon you to provide evidence that this rule exists. You’ve already said that such a case should be easy to find, so go. Find it. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/62 "2013-03-08T20:14:53Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > I guess this post is trying to make a subtle point. I am not in a subtle mood, so it is over my head, and I won’t reply further. “‘You miss 100% of the shots you never take.’ - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/63 "2013-03-08T20:18:48Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > FYI, the mods had a lengthy discussion of this exact issue back in 2006. [Here is a post summarizing our conclusion about quotation marks and paraphrasing.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7272954&postcount=62) (For people who don’t like clicking on links, it says that prr is wrong and Marley is right.) Excellent. Any time I feel like mischaracterizing someone’s argument in the future, I’ll simply simply put something he didn’t write inside quotation marks and then claim that I’m not being malicious, merely attempting to summarize. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/64 "2013-03-08T20:20:02Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > AND–another epic battle comes to an end! By unanimous decision of all the Mods–a clear knockout for the undefeated cham-peen, \*\*Marley23 \*\*, who extends his knockout record to 1,546 to zero losses. Would someone scrape that goddamned salamander off the canvas? Surely you mean “by unanimous decision of all the posters except for prr”, right? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/65 "2013-03-08T20:20:17Z")
I foresee that working out well for you. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/66 "2013-03-08T20:28:33Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > “‘You miss 100% of the shots you never take.’ - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott Still too subtle for me. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/67 "2013-03-08T20:29:15Z")
Giraffe, I am surprised to hear you admit that “[T]he mods had a lengthy…s exact…back in 2006.” That must have been quite a sight! ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/68 "2013-03-08T20:35:15Z")
Why do the mods put up with this shit? Seriously? I refuse to believe these complaints are genuine. ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/69 "2013-03-08T21:24:08Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Giraffe, I am surprised to hear you admit that “[T]he mods had a lengthy…s exact…back in 2006.” That must have been quite a sight! Holy crap, I laughed… ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/70 "2013-03-08T21:58:41Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Excellent. Any time I feel like mischaracterizing someone’s argument in the future, I’ll simply simply put something he didn’t write inside quotation marks and then claim that I’m not being malicious, merely attempting to summarize. So now that you’ve finally been forced to see that the rule is what every mod and every other poster says it is, instead of apologizing you gleefully declare that you intend to use this newly understood rule as an excuse to allow you to be a jerk, in violation of SDMB rule #1. The fact that said rule has worked so well for years that you were unable to find even a single instance of anyone complaining about the rule–much less blatantly misusing it–notwithstanding. I think I can accurately summarize your position as, “I lost so I’m going to be a big jerk and you can’t stop me! Neener, neener!” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/71 "2013-03-08T22:08:19Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Excellent. Any time I feel like mischaracterizing someone’s argument in the future, I’ll simply simply put something he didn’t write inside quotation marks and then claim that I’m not being malicious, merely attempting to summarize. Wise plan. One’s jerk-quiver should always be well stocked with arrows. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/72 "2013-03-08T22:11:51Z")
How do the rules about quotation marks, as defined here on SDMB, compare with the rules about quotation marks in the real world? As I learned it, quotation marks are really supposed to be used for exact quotations, not for paraphrases. (This is aside from various other uses for quote marks, like the so-called “scare quotes” and other uses.) Exact quote: Abraham Lincoln said “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” Paraphrase: Abraham Lincoln said that a nation fighting a civil war will certainly collapse. Given the availability of [noparse] > [@](#): > > . . . [/noparse] tags for exact quotes, it seems that SDMB has downgraded the old-school pedestrian quotation marks to have a less formal meaning than they traditionally do. This may suffice to explain why it is a matter of confusion here. > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Pointing out that someone is jr. moderating is also jr. moderating. Uh, you’re overlooking something here. To the extent that **Anonymous User** is a moderator at all, he very literally IS a junior moderator. He is a junior junior moderator. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/73 "2013-03-08T22:18:31Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > This may suffice to explain why it is a matter of confusion here. There is no confusion here. It is a non-issue. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/74 "2013-03-08T22:34:57Z")
**Warning** **prr** , we’ve had it with your endless whining. You’ve had eight warnings and a suspension. If you whine about anything ever again, or violate any rule even slightly, or do anything we consider remotely jerklike, we’ll ban you without further notice. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/75 "2013-03-08T22:36:13Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Oh, get off it. If you’d just admit that you violated your own rules, and got away with it because who the hell is going to call you on it, I’d probably gotten out of your face already eight posts ago. Come on, the rules don’t apply to mods participating as posters, and you know it. Jesus–I’m hardly a big fan of a lot of the moderating here, but your posts are idiotic. Paraphrasing someone with quotation marks has always been ok, messing with text in the quote box has always been forbidden. There’s absolutely no rule that says I can’t say that pseudotriton ruber ruber said “I’m just complaining for the fun of complaining”. Dude, if you’re going to bitch about mod behavior, bitch about it when they actually break rules they have, not rules that you make up in your head. Again: Marley’s right, you’re wrong. Give it up. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/76 "2013-03-08T22:41:16Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > **Warning** > > **prr** , we’ve had it with your endless whining. You’ve had eight warnings and a suspension. If you whine about anything ever again, or violate any rule even slightly, or do anything we consider remotely jerklike, we’ll ban you without further notice. I retract all that terrible stuff I said about you in the past. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/77 "2013-03-08T22:42:37Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Excellent. Any time I feel like mischaracterizing someone’s argument in the future, I’ll simply simply put something he didn’t write inside quotation marks and then claim that I’m not being malicious, merely attempting to summarize. That’ll show 'em!! ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/78 "2013-03-08T22:46:34Z")
[posted as a poster] This beats paying him to go away. [/poster] ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/79 "2013-03-08T22:53:01Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > [posted as a poster] This beats paying him to go away. [/poster] That is SO mean. I admire that. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/80 "2013-03-08T23:07:53Z")
I believe all that needs to be said has been said here. Thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378.md?page=3)