# Did Marley violate SDMB protocol here? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 8, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378 "2013-03-08T14:33:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 43
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378/43 "2013-03-08T19:18:52Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > BBBZZZZT! Nope. “Along the lines of” is clearly indicating a paraphrase. All righty then, from the same thread (note that I’m not implying anyone mentioned did anything wrong): > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/742): > > Of course we’re allowed to collect data on gun violence. The government does it all the time. The CDC is the only outfit that isn’t allowed to conduct research on it because some people don’t like how they conduct and present their research. > > I don’t have any problems with the CDC doing research or funding research but I understand why people were annoyed with the CDC “public health” approach to gun violence rather than the FBI “criminologist” approach to gun violence. > > My understanding is that the public health approach focused on banning guns as an effective method of reducing gun deaths, but the prevented gun deaths were almost entirely suicides. They also presumed that these suicides would be replaced by the typical “attempted” but unsuccessful suicides rather than other equally lethal methods of suicide. The CDC also doesn’t place very much weight on the increase in crime victimizatiojn that might occur in a disarmed citizenry with armed criminals unless people will die as a result. So if the CDC starts looking at this from more of a criminologist’s perspective, I don’t see why anyone could reasonably object but the suspicion is that these people aren’t built to look at these problems in that way. > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/751): > > It’s simply incorrect to say that “you can collect any data you want.” There are scientific, ethical, regulatory and pragmatic concerns that dictate what and how data can be used in answering research questions. > > Of course, the people saying this sort of thing are just being flippant and don’t actually care about the real world. And: > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/713): > > Well, at least you understand each other! I swear, somebody says maybe some regulations are in order, what you hear is “Let’s grab all the guns!” Or somebody says “Maybe some restrictions on sales?” you hear the dreaded crunch of liberal jackboots, coming to take all the guns! > > Hell, if someone says good morning, you think he’s saying “Today is a good morning…to grab all the guns!” > > Weird. > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/714): > > What’s weird is all you gun control advocates telling us how much you love guns. And how you think “we just want to grab some of your guns, at least for now” is anything we should welcome. Who do you think you are fooling? > > And let’s not forget elucidator that you don’t have any higher principles that you are acting from. Risk of death as consequence of certain actions is just fine by you so long as you enjoy those actions yourself. So which is it, are you a real hypocrite, or just a lockstep liberal who can’t think outside his ideology? And also: > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/719): > > … But at least all of Kable’s “see guns are not stupid” have kept this thread visible for weeks longer than I thought it would last. This has let the rest of us see it and remember to continue to post the stupid news about guns. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-marley-violate-sdmb-protocol-here/652378)._