# Did Mike Damone get conned by Stacy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 12, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454 "2023-10-12T11:08:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/1 "2023-10-12T11:08:36Z")
In Fast Times at Ridgemont High Stacy Hamilton tells Mike Damone he made her pregnant and she needs an abortion. But wait a minute. She had also recently had sex with stereo salesman and future U.S. Senator Ron Johnson (JK). Johnson lost interest in her and disappeared. How do we know it wasn’t him that made her pregnant? ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/2 "2023-10-12T13:59:59Z")
I believe the answer lies in “the attitude” ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/3 "2023-10-12T14:08:05Z")
One thing about _Fast Times_ is that it’s hard to know in exactly what part of the calendar year things take place. Is it a bunch of events all taking place within a week or two? Or is it a collection of vignettes from throughout the school year? I kind of lean towards the latter, going from memory. We know that part of the movie takes place at the very beginning of the school year, then during “football season” at some point, then more at the end of the school year. There’s no holiday stuff I can recall, even in the background (e.g. no decorations, trick or treating, Christmas lights, etc.). So, conceivably – and again, I’m going from memory – the Ron Johnson and Mike Damone hookups could have taken place months apart. Or no? I’d really have to rewatch it and try to work it out. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/4 "2023-10-12T18:49:37Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Or is it a collection of vignettes from throughout the school year? It is 100% this. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/5 "2023-10-12T19:59:40Z")
That’s even more apparent in the book based more or less on the true experiences of Cameron Crowe as an undercover journalist. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/6 "2023-10-13T02:08:36Z")
Absolutely. From football season to the last day of school (when Mr. Hand gets his time back from Spicoli) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/7 "2023-10-13T02:13:17Z")
You’ve got both “cheerleaders tugging off wool gloves” and “laying by the pool catching rays (and Brad!).” So totally “all year.” “People on 'ludes **should _not_** drive!” ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/8 "2023-10-13T04:25:55Z")
Now that I purused through the flick in bits I’ve decided the masses are correct. It covers an entire year. > [@bordelond](#): > > I kind of lean towards the latter, going from memory. We know that part of the movie takes place at the very beginning of the school year, then during “football season” at some point, then more at the end of the school year. There’s no holiday stuff I can recall, even in the background (e.g. no decorations, trick or treating, Christmas lights, etc.). This is incorrect and provieds the clincher. there is a Christmas scene at the mall. Stacy makes a claim that Ron hasn’t called her since November and this is before Rat even asks her for her number. [[https://youtu.be/B9h9SltCkhs?si=DCSToAepsidSvpJN](https://youtu.be/B9h9SltCkhs?si=DCSToAepsidSvpJN)] There is a deleted scene where Linda Barrett gives another girl advice about birth control. Should have done the same for Stacy. ---
**Author:** ![phs3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phs3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phs3)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/9 "2023-10-13T13:04:22Z")
What I find most disturbing is that I knew what this was about from the subject alone. Surely my aging brain has better uses for its limited and dwindling storage! ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/10 "2023-10-13T13:30:54Z")
Play the Cars’ “Moving in Stereo” and ask any middle-aged man what comes to mind… (_“doesn’t anyone f#cking knock anymore”_) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/11 "2023-10-13T13:44:43Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > (_“doesn’t anyone f#cking knock anymore”_) I lock the bathroom door if I’m just doing my regular business. I don’t know what he was thinking. Distracted, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/12 "2023-10-13T16:39:30Z")
It’s not even left vague how much time passes. The movie is a school year from start to finish. The stereo salesman was too long before to be the Dad. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/13 "2023-10-14T20:56:57Z")
> Damone: Now this is most important, Ratt. When it comes down to making out, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV CUT TO Stacy and Mark Rattner in his sister’s car. Led Zepellin’s KASHMIR playing on car stereo ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/14 "2023-10-14T21:22:19Z")
I haven’t seen the movie in a long while, but I assume that the Cameron Crowe equivalent does not appear on camera? (Unlike Almost Famous, in which the Cameron Crowe equivalent _is_ the main character.) ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/15 "2023-10-14T21:51:17Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > there is a Christmas scene at the mall. Stacy makes a claim that Ron hasn’t called her since November and this is before Rat even asks her for her number. I can’t believe I forgot about that part. Thanks — ignorance fought 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/16 "2023-10-14T23:05:15Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Cameron Crowe equivalent does not appear on camera Nope, and not unlike the book where there is no real first person “I talked to Stacy or Brad” and of course all the names were changed. As I recall he was on close friendly terms with the Linda Barret / Phoebe Cates character and at some point he let on to some of them who he was and what he was doing (in posing as a High School student at the age of 22). I don’t know if he told them he had gone on tour with the Allman Brothers, the Eagles and Led Zeppelin because who would ever believe that? His girlfriend at the time, Nancy Wilson of Heart, plays “Beautiful girl in car”. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-mike-damone-get-conned-by-stacy/991454/17 "2023-10-14T23:23:38Z")
Oh yeah - missed the edit window: He did get the princiPAL (and superintendant Chalmers I guess) of the High School’s prior okay on what he was doing so it wasn’t all entirely undercover or whatever. And maybe in that case he did say “Call up Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone magazine” or maybe they recognized him as that 17 year old who toured with the Allmans, etc…