# Did my neighbors hear me? Am I still a man?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 26, 2000, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727 "2000-11-26T04:34:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/1 "2000-11-26T04:34:35Z")

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:😭:

I was listening to Sixpence None the Richer’s “Kiss Me” at full volume. And I liked it! :o

I fear I can never claim to be a manly man. Am I still allowed to watch football, at least? I beg forgiveness. What can I do to atone?

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/2 "2000-11-26T04:46:43Z")

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Assume the position.  
Now.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/3 "2000-11-26T04:52:47Z")

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::runs in listening to “Kiss Me”::

I’m ready, tiggeril.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/4 "2000-11-26T04:56:20Z")

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::flips a coin::

Hmmm. Who first? Why, it landed on edge!

::grabs two paddles::

3…2…1…

_ **WHAP!!** _  
_ **WHAP!!** _  
_ **WHAP!!** _  
_ **WHAP!!** _

There. You’ve both atoned. To me. I don’t know what the rest of the TM will do. 😃

Now, how about some salve for that?

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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/5 "2000-11-26T05:00:37Z")

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I have both “Kiss Me” and “There She Goes” on MP3, and listen to them often.

(Aside: There, Lisa, you needed something to blackmail me with? There you go. Now no one need know about you and… well, you know that… and no one at school need know about this, either.)

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/6 "2000-11-26T05:04:57Z")

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Wow, I got off easy. I thought I would have to make a pilgrimmage to Lambeau Field and do a hundred naked pushups in sub-zero temperatures. Or something.

Argh, wait, I only atoned to you, tiggeril? And you’re not even a man!

_The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step . . ._

**SanibelMan** , I delegate to you the task of buying beer for the road trip up to Wisconsin.

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**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/7 "2000-11-26T07:39:30Z")

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Then you’ll have to wait 5 years for atonement.

–Tim

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**Author:** ![RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5daacb/32.png) [@RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RocknRoll_Killing_Machine)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/8 "2000-11-26T08:38:36Z")

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> Two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-coloured uppers, downers, screamers, laughers… also a quart of tequila, quart of rum, case of beer, pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls.

And a fast red car.

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**Author:** ![Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eggs_a_la_Ted)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/9 "2000-11-26T13:15:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SanibelMan \*  
> **I have both “Kiss Me” and “There She Goes” on MP3, and listen to them often.**

You could get the original 80’s version of There She Goes by The La’s. That way you could claim you have it as a retro thing and not because you’re a girly-man.

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**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/10 "2000-11-26T17:47:09Z")

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I want to address something I’ve come to believe about the characters in “Kiss Me” (i.e. the singer and the person she’s singing to). Namely that they’re both women.

Here’s my evidence:  
[ul][li]The singer says in verse 1, _“you wear those shoes and I will wear that dress.”_ This clearly implies that the singer is female (which we could, of course, already have deduced from the fact that a woman sings the freaking song). The remark about the shoes is non-conclusive; however, it seems unlikely that a woman would care what shoes a male date was wearing, but it seems plausible that she would be interested in a female date’s footwear.[/li][li]In the second verse, the singer says, _“Bring, bring/bring your **flowered hat** …”_ I think this provides the additional evidence needed to declare this an official lesbian sighting. No man would wear a flowered hat — or if the singer is singing to a man who **would** wear a flowered hat, she should not reasonably expect him to kiss her. If you know what I mean and I think you do.[/li][li]Hi Opal. [/ul][/li]  
My point in bringing all this up is to give neuroman a face-saving reason for listening to the song. Namely, he is… like all heterosexual men… fascinated by lesbians.

No charge, neuro.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/11 "2000-11-26T18:01:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Chef Troy \*  
> \*\*I want to address something I’ve come to believe about the characters in “Kiss Me” (i.e. the singer and the person she’s singing to). Namely that they’re both women.  
> \*\*

Yes Troy, I always thought the same thing. I heard one mention on MTV that the song was supposed to be a “bittersweet song about a really strong crush that (the singer) had on another girl when she was 14”, but never anything definite from a “proof” standpoint.

It’s still a nice song, regardless. But I always take it to be referring to two young girls.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2000, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-my-neighbors-hear-me-am-i-still-a-man/42727/12 "2000-11-26T18:27:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Chef Troy \*  
> \*\*I want to address something I’ve come to believe about the characters in “Kiss Me” (i.e. the singer and the person she’s singing to). Namely that they’re both women.
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> My point in bringing all this up is to give neuroman a face-saving reason for listening to the song. Namely, he is… like all heterosexual men… fascinated by lesbians.
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> No charge, neuro. \*\*

Uh, yes, those fascinating lesbians! (Dare I say “silver-tongued”? Ok, I dare not.) That’s why I was listening to the song. Woohoo! I’m off scot-free! Thanks for _reminding_ me, Chef Troy.

Havok, I still think that sounds like an excellent idea. However, the only thing that really worries me is the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge.
