# Did Ole Miss cheat at recruiting? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 7, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ole-miss-cheat-at-recruiting/649592 "2013-02-07T15:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ole-miss-cheat-at-recruiting/649592/21 "2013-02-08T15:44:53Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > On the rise? Maybe so. But they were just 3-5 in the SEC, and just 6-6 in the regular season. I wouldn’t start buying BCS bowl tickets just yet, Rebel fans. For some reason I had thought that they finished with a better record than they did. Looking at it they certainly acquitted themselves mostly well in their losses to “big brother” SEC programs. Maybe I am viewing this solely through the lens of their bowl win over Pitt. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ole-miss-cheat-at-recruiting/649592/22 "2013-02-08T23:15:05Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Don’t blame me, blame his father and Kenny Rogers. > It didn’t stop his dad and Kenny from seeking over $100,000 for Cam’s services. It didn’t stop the NCAA from suspending him, then, by some odd coincidence that happened to occur the week before the BCS championship, rescinding their own suspension. And it didn’t stop Cam from throwing those two under the bus and denying any agency relationship for their actions. > > Like when your own father asks for money for you to play, but he had no relationship with you? Like that? > > It’s NCAA big boy football. Let’s not pretend. I once asked my boss for a 20% raise after a very good review. Guess what happened? I got the Std C-o-L raise Asking and Getting is not the same. Cam Newton (and any of his ‘entourage’) did not have any leverage to ask and receive any money. He had Two Strikes against him. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ole-miss-cheat-at-recruiting/649592/23 "2013-02-08T23:47:58Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I once asked my boss for a 20% raise after a very good review. > > Guess what happened? I got the Std C-o-L raise > > Asking and Getting is not the same. No, but you asking for a raise isn’t a violation of NCAA rules. > [@notfrommensa](#): > > Cam Newton (and any of his ‘entourage’) did not have any leverage to ask and receive any money. He had Two Strikes against him. Sure. I’m sure that Cam had no idea his father was asking for money for him, that they never asked for any monies from any other university at all while Cam was being recruited, that he never received any compensation from those Auburn “boosters”, that the NCAA had no stake in finding him clean and eligible to play in the BCS championship, that he went to Auburn for a quality education, and that this kind of crap isn’t rampant in college football. I’m also sure there is an Easter Bunny, that the NCAA is out to protect it’s integrity and nothing else, and that if I clap hard enough, Tinkerbell will come back alive. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ole-miss-cheat-at-recruiting/649592/24 "2013-02-09T00:01:05Z")
No specific evidence against Cam Newton ever turned up, but I don’t buy the “he had two strikes” defense. He’d had some major problems, which is why he had to spend some time at juco like a lot of troubled prospects, but he was always seen as a major talent and [several colleges were interested in him](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_staples/05/24/newton-auburn/index.html). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ole-miss-cheat-at-recruiting/649592.md?page=1)