# Did Pelosi just un-invite Trump from the State of the Union? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 16, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898 "2019-01-16T22:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/541 "2019-01-25T23:07:37Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Pelosi didn’t shift the goal posts. She gave a simple, reasonable requirement - open the government. Anything else is the routine task of the legislature. > > Trump’s concession speech was total surrender. The hollow claim that, should he not get his wall, he will shut down the government again is ludicrous. > Pelosi has calmly defeated the President. Total surrender? I’ll wait on that judgment. From the CNN article on this: > [@](#): > > “As everyone knows I have a very powerful alternative but I’m not going to use it at this time,” Trump said after declaring he’d struck a deal to reopen government. CNN reported exclusively on Thursday that a national emergency proclamation had been drafted that would allow for potentially billions of federal dollars to be put toward wall construction. > > “If we don’t get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on February 15 again, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the Constitution of the United States to address this emergency,” Trump said. “We will have great security.” [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-border/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-border/index.html) What a well behaved puppy! ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/542 "2019-01-25T23:31:20Z")
Trump is declaring political war without purpose or end game. I don’t believe we are stupid enough to allow it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/543 "2019-01-26T00:29:51Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Trump is declaring political war without purpose or end game. I don’t believe we are stupid enough to allow it. He was just allowed to do that for over a month. But this time… ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/544 "2019-01-26T00:36:31Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > So, what can he possibly have to say in a State of the Union Address? I don’t know, I suspect it’s going to be deeply stupid, and I will fight you if you try to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/545 "2019-01-26T00:42:34Z")
Stop the SOTU? Why would anyone even consider such a thing? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/546 "2019-01-26T01:56:23Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I don’t know, I suspect it’s going to be deeply stupid, and I will fight you if you try to stop it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/547 "2019-01-27T14:02:43Z")
Looks like **CarnalK** made the call: Pelosi aide on whether Trump will deliver SOTU this Tuesday after all now that govt’s open: “No” > ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/548 "2019-01-27T14:08:37Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Stop the SOTU? > > Why would anyone even consider such a thing? The speech normally means nothing substantive, no. But for this President, who is driven not by a sense of responsibility to the nation but by ego and television exposure, it’s vital. Taking it away from him is a way to remind him that he no longer has control of anything. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/549 "2019-01-28T22:22:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Looks like **CarnalK** made the call: > > Pelosi aide on whether Trump will deliver SOTU this Tuesday after all now that govt’s open: > > “No” > > [https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1089518349741146112?s=19](https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1089518349741146112?s=19) Nah. CarnalK thinks she shouldn’t “allow . . . the SOTU in the House before a more concrete resolution is had.” But [he’s invited to give it in the house on February 5](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pelosi-invites-trump-to-deliver-state-of-the-union-on-feb-5/2019/01/28/9076e7a0-2344-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html?utm_term=.9d550c9eb0e7). Which seems fine to me. She makes him wait a little to remind him who has the power here, and to not have to rush the necessary preparations, but gives him his treat for behaving more-or-less properly. Positive Behavior Reinforcement at its finest :). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898.md?page=27)