# Did Pence get the same VP offer as Kasich? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 7, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070 "2016-08-07T19:26:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/1 "2016-08-07T19:26:01Z")
Kasich recently confirmed that the Trump campaign offered to make him the most powerful VP in history, in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. > **[Kasich: Trump Jr. called aide to float VP offer | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/index.html)** > > Ohio Gov. John Kasich still isn't ready to support Donald Trump for president -- but he confirmed that one of his aides was contacted about possibly joining the real estate mogul's ticket as his vice president. Did Pence receive a similar offer? Has he ever been asked? (Apologies if this has been asked and answered elsewhere…too many Trump threads to sift through) ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/2 "2016-08-08T04:28:33Z")
From the linked article: > [@](#): > > Kasich told CNN’s Jake Tapper that he didn’t receive a call himself. But he said one of his aides confirmed to him a New York Times report last month saying Donald Trump Jr. tried to entice Kasich with a position as the most powerful vice president in history So Pence would have got a far better offer. A genuine offer rather than some pig in a poke thought bubble floated between staffers and ancillaries. I’ve got absolutely no idea as to the specifics of the offer. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/3 "2016-08-08T04:43:01Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > So Pence would have got a far better offer. Pence isn’t worth nearly as much as Kasich would have been, though. Kasich is a popular governor of a swing state, with some level of national name recognition after his presidential bid. Pence is a no-name mediocrity from a pretty red state. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/4 "2016-08-08T12:46:54Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Kasich recently confirmed that the Trump campaign offered to make him the most powerful VP in history, in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/index.html) > > Did Pence receive a similar offer? Has he ever been asked? We may never know, but it’s clear Pence would have joined the ticket for a much lower price than Kasich would have, if Kasich in fact had any price at all that he would have accepted. The impression one gets of Pence is that he’s like Homer Simpson begging for his job back from Mr. Burns. He is a doting yes-man to Trump who, one senses, feels like he just jumped from “no chance of being President ever” to “all I have to do is have us win this and then I’m VP to the oldest man ever elected to the office.” He’s proposing to skip a thousand places in line. I don’t think Trump had to offer him much at all. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/5 "2016-08-08T12:56:02Z")
Those that know for sure aren’t talking. My guess is that it’s essentially the same deal. Trump has no interest in actually doing anything, he has no interest in knowing anything, he has no interest in learning anything, and no interest in working. He wants to feed his insatiable ego in the largest way possible. Once accomplished, he’d be happy being a figurehead and let someone else do the actual work. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/6 "2016-08-08T13:43:58Z")
Pence probably got the same deal, but like most Trump deals, it will be reneged on whenever Trump wants to be involved in something. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/7 "2016-08-08T14:09:06Z")
He could have made the same offer simply because Trump doesn’t want to do the hard stuff but Pence certainly wasn’t in the same bargaining position as Kasich. First and foremost, Kasich would be giving up his governorship mid-term while Pence was heading into a tight election. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pence-get-the-same-vp-offer-as-kasich/762070/8 "2016-08-08T15:50:24Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Pence probably got the same deal, but like most Trump deals, it will be reneged on whenever Trump wants to be involved in something. This pretty much nails it. Trump’s promises are meant to be broken; it’s his way of doing business. Kasich was smart and proud enough to know Trump was full of it and he’d be relegated to the sidelines the instant Trump wanted to do something, or disagreed with Kasich, or just had a bad day. Pence doesn’t have the same scruples or moral courage or, perhaps, understanding of what the hell he’s up against.