# Did Sandra Day O'Connor ruin her legacy with Bush vs Gore?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 25, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878 "2010-11-25T15:25:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/61 "2010-11-27T20:17:11Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> In _Gonzales_, he rejects the argument that assisted suicide should be left up to the states, saying that the desire by the people of Oregon to allow it is irrelevant because it isn’t allowed by the rest of the country.

Please quote the portion of his dissenting opinion where he says that.

He says that under federal law, the Attorney General has the power to determine what a “legitimate medical purpose” is under 21 CFR § 1306. And the courts are required to give the AG’s determination “substantial deference.” So under the existing process, determined to be the rules before assistd suicide reared its head, the AG gets to decide what a “legitmate medical purpose” is.

But if you can find where he says that he rests his decision simply on what is and isn’t allowed by the rest of the country, please quote it here.

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> In _Ayotte_, he says that a statute has to be read narrowly, focusing on the legislative intent of the drafters. In _Gonzales_, he says that even though the primary intent of the drafters of the CCA was to combat drug addiction and illegal drug abuse, there’s no reason to think they also weren’t concerned about doctors helping people kill themselves, even though they didn’t talk about it.

He wasn’t the author of Ayotte, and even if he were, the discussion in Gonzales is over a federal regulation, which is supposed to be interpreted by the federal agency and to which interpretation the courts owe substantial deference, and in Ayotte it’s over a law, which is interpreted by the courts, narrowly.

But when you recount the cases, you somehow failed to mention that one involved a federal reg and one involved a federal law. How did you miss that? You also failed to mention Auer v. Robbins, that lays out the standard for interpretation of a federal reg by the courts. What happened there?

Not too amazing an analysis, Captain.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/62 "2010-11-27T21:16:27Z")

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> But when you recount the cases, you somehow failed to mention that one involved a federal reg and one involved a federal law. How did you miss that? You also failed to mention Auer v. Robbins, that lays out the standard for interpretation of a federal reg by the courts. What happened there?

Partly what happened there is that I’m on a strange computer (visiting family for the holiday), and don’t have access to a lot of the legal stuff I normally have. I still think I can make the argument that Scalia rules inconsistantly, especially on certain issues, like abortion and homosexuality, that he apparently has strong feelings about. But I don’t feel I can make the case now under my present circumstances, and so I regrettfully withdraw from the debate.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/63 "2010-11-27T22:58:37Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Especially (as I’ve mentioned before) it was announced AN HOUR BEFORE the polls closed in the Republican-strong panhandle.

No, the first call was by NBC at 7:49:40. Ten minutes and twenty seconds before closing in the panhandle. The other nets were even later. The number of prospective voters who publicly claimed later to have turned back during those ten minutes: **1**. :rolleyes:

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> But of course all of the Gore supporters ignore the stories of Republican that were going to vote for Bush but they erroneously thought the election was over. Any answer to that?

Your answer: Check your facts first.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/64 "2010-11-27T23:30:34Z")

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**Saint Cad** got the wrong 1 hour issue. All the networks flubbed by announcing that polls closed in the panhandle an hour before the actual close time. From wikipedia:

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> All five major US TV news networks (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox and CNN) made the incorrect assumption that all of Florida’s polls closed at 7:00 p.m. EST, which was not the case. All five of them reported this incorrect statement at the top of the 6:00-7:00 hour. Westernmost counties in Florida had polls open for another hour, until 8:00 p.m. EST, as they were part of the Central Time Zone. This region of the state traditionally voted mostly Republican. Because of the above mistaken assumption, some media outlets reported at 7:00 p.m. EST that all polls had closed in the state of Florida. Also, significantly, the Voter News Service called the state of Florida for Al Gore at 7:48 p.m. EST. A survey estimate by John McLaughlin & Associates put the number of voters who did not vote due to confusion as high as 15,000, which theoretically reduced Bush’s margin of victory by an estimated 5,000 votes;[8] a study by John Lott found that Bush’s margin of victory was reduced by 7,500 votes.[9] This survey assumes that the turnout in the Panhandle counties would have equalled the statewide average of 68% if the media had not incorrectly reported the polls’ closing time and if the state had not been called for Gore while the polls were still open. This opens the possibility that Bush would have won by a larger victory margin and controversy would have been avoided if the networks had known and reported the correct poll closing times, and called the state after all polls were closed. Some individuals made public statements to the effect that they would have voted for Bush, but did not vote because of the poll close time confusion, or the Gore call.

As I noted earlier, there are a number of “what ifs” one can wonder about with all the screw-ups in Florida that year. Some favored Bush and some favored Gore. I’m sure if your major source of information on this subject is the “World Socialist Website”, you’ll lean toward thinking Gore was the victim. If your major source of information on the subject is Rush Limbaugh, you’ll think Bush was the victim.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/65 "2010-11-27T23:45:57Z")

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And if the Wiki article itself is reporting a “study” by _John Lott_ as factual, no wonder you’re screwed up. Where are all the other thousands of people who got fooled, then?

**John Mace** , there you go again with your false-equivalence, “Both parties do shit, tsk tsk, the hell with them both” shit. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/66 "2010-11-28T00:02:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And if the Wiki article itself is reporting a “study” by _John Lott_ as factual, no wonder you’re screwed up. Where are all the other thousands of people who got fooled, then?

First of all, that wasn’t the only study, and it gave roughly the same number of “missed Bush votes” that the other study did. Secondly, the study is not really the salient point. The salient point is that there was a screw up by the networks in announcing poll closure times one hour too early. So, as \*\*septimus \*\*mused earlier, one might wonder how much that affected the outcome of the vote.

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> **John Mace** , there you go again with your false-equivalence, “Both parties do shit, tsk tsk, the hell with them both” shit. :dubious:

Except that’s not what I said, your reckless use of quotes notwithstanding. You might wish I had said that, but I didn’t.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/67 "2010-11-28T00:52:16Z")

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I’m not sure why it matters what Gore wanted, what Bush wanted, whether people would have asked “How high?” if the networks had told them to jump, etc. I thought we were talking about the Bush v. Gore decision and what effect that might have on Sandy’s legacy.

With that in mind, does anyone want to tackle my question in post 45? It’s relevant and I’m sure many would find the various answers interesting.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/68 "2010-11-28T01:38:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> First of all, that wasn’t the only study, and it gave roughly the same number of “missed Bush votes” that the other study did.

Except that none of them have been able to actually _find_ these people. As I already pointed out, without your addressing the issue. :rolleyes:

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> Secondly, the study is not really the salient point. The salient point is that there was a screw up by the networks in announcing poll closure times one hour too early. So, as \*\*septimus \*\*mused earlier, one might wonder how much that affected the outcome of the vote.

Except that it was not one hour, it was ten minutes. :rolleyes:

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> Except that’s not what I said, your reckless use of quotes notwithstanding. You might wish I had said that, but I didn’t.

Better grab a composition text go look up what else quotes can mean. They include summarizing and paraphrasing. Note that you’re not denying falling into the same old trap.  
**DMC** , your question is either rhetorical, or too obvious to answer, but since you ask, the answer is obviously no, this court was going to make Bush President no matter what legal contortions were required. O’Connor was part of that effort, due to her already-known determination to have a Republican appoint her successor as well as to the party-before-country reasons her colleagues shared. Yes, one case can define a judge’s legacy, and this one is hers - a hijack of democracy itself.

You asked what matters - sadly not too many people seem to agree that the Constitution is what matters, the nation, the republic, democracy and its principles. Those obviously required every valid vote to be counted, with its validity assessed fairly and impartially, according to the “clear intent of the voter”. It was further necessary to use the same technology everywhere, and that the technology chosen be as reliable as possible, and completely traceable for recount purposes, but those conditions were not met Regrettably, they still are not) and could not be fixed, only compensated for. I have never heard it asserted that this could not have been accomplished, even before the bogus “safe harbor” deadline that SCOTUS misapplied along with the 14th Amendment, if there had been a good-faith effort to do so, free of stalling and pettifogging tactics.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/69 "2010-11-28T15:46:23Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Except that none of them have been able to actually _find_ these people. As I already pointed out, without your addressing the issue. :rolleyes:

Doesn’t matter. As I already said, I’m speculating along the lines of what \*\*septimus \*\*did. No one has been able to find any of the people he’s speculating about either.

Once again, point being that fubars affected both sides, and there is no reason to focus on only one side. Unless, of course, you’re trying to push a partisan agenda.

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> Except that it was not one hour, it was ten minutes. :rolleyes:

What part of “All five of them reported this incorrect statement at the top of the 6:00-7:00 hour. Westernmost counties in Florida had polls open for another hour, until 8:00 p.m. EST” do you not understand? One hour. If you’ve got a cite that says otherwise, let’s see it.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/70 "2010-11-28T17:29:12Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> I’m not sure why it matters what Gore wanted, what Bush wanted, whether people would have asked “How high?” if the networks had told them to jump, etc. I thought we were talking about the Bush v. Gore decision and what effect that might have on Sandy’s legacy.
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> With that in mind, does anyone want to tackle my question in post 45? It’s relevant and I’m sure many would find the various answers interesting.

I don’t know enough about all the justices to answer your question from post 45, but I think I know enough about Justice O’Connor to say that her vote probably would have been the same even if Gore / Bush’s roles were reversed in 2000.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/71 "2010-11-28T21:32:22Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Doesn’t matter.

It does matter if you’re interested in determining if the complaint about the panhandle was real or a red herring.

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> As I already said, I’m speculating along the lines of what \*\*septimus \*\*did. No one has been able to find any of the people he’s speculating about either.

Then the inference has to be “red herring”, doesn’t it? So why then are you bringing it up as a real issue?

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> Once again, point being that fubars affected both sides, and there is no reason to focus on only one side. Unless, of course, you’re trying to push a partisan agenda.

Or if you really are trying to be objective (there really is such a thing), not to simply reassure yourself about being above it all and just superior to all those messy “participants”. :dubious: Do you know what false equivalence is?

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> What part of “All five of them reported this incorrect statement at the top of the 6:00-7:00 hour. Westernmost counties in Florida had polls open for another hour, until 8:00 p.m. EST” do you not understand?

The part where it has any basis in fact. :rolleyes:

Come on now, dude, you can do better than that.

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> One hour. If you’ve got a cite that says otherwise, let’s see it.

:rolleyes:

> **[FAIR](https://fair.org/?page=3557)**
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> FAIR is the national progressive media watchdog group, challenging corporate media bias, spin and misinformation.

[http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php/index.php/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=7318](http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php/index.php/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=7318)

> **[Harm Reduction: The Only Truly Humanitarian Answer](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/6/1942/00222)**
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> Daily Kos is a progressive news site that fights for democracy by giving our audience information and resources to win elections and impact government. Our coverage is assiduously factual, ethical, and unapologetically liberal. We amplify what we...

Or even just

> **[Google](https://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=17259,18168,24711,27744&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=bush+gore+nbc+call+panhandle+7:49&cp=33&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=9b84a0f9b294c817)**
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> Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.

Got it now?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/72 "2010-11-28T21:51:39Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> So you still don’t acknowledge that you mischaracterized a simple fact?
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> _I_ will not take _you_ seriously, anymore.

Gore attempted to invalidate military votes that for no fault of their own did not make it in time. Even his own running mate was against this tactic. Al Gore was a slimy politician who lost the election despite his attempts to invalidate the votes of military people serving overseas.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/73 "2010-11-28T23:00:46Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It does matter if you’re interested in determining if the complaint about the panhandle was real or a red herring.
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> Then the inference has to be “red herring”, doesn’t it? So why then are you bringing it up as a real issue?
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> Or if you really are trying to be objective (there really is such a thing), not to simply reassure yourself about being above it all and just superior to all those messy “participants”. :dubious: Do you know what false equivalence is?  
> The part where it has any basis in fact. :rolleyes:
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> Come on now, dude, you can do better than that.
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> :rolleyes:
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> [FAIR — Page 3557 — FAIR is the national progressive media watchdog group, challenging corporate media bias, spin and misinformation.](http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3557)  
> [http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php/index.php/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=7318](http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php/index.php/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=7318)  
> [Harm Reduction: The Only Truly Humanitarian Answer](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/6/1942/00222)
> 
> Or even just  
> [Google](http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=17259,18168,24711,27744&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=bush+gore+nbc+call+panhandle+7:49&cp=33&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=9b84a0f9b294c817)
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> Got it now?

No wonder you didn’t quote from any of your cites-- none of them addresses the issue of the networks announcing that the polls in Florida were closed 1 hour before they actually were.

So, let’s be 100% clear here. There are 2 issues wrt the networks and the timing of their calls:

1. Calling the race for Gore, which they all did about 10 minutes before the polls closed in the panhandle.

2. Announcing that the polls were closed one hour before they actually did close in the panhandle.

Item #2, dude, item #2. None of your cites disputes the wikipedia article I quoted above. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/74 "2010-11-29T02:00:28Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Item #2, dude, item #2. None of your cites disputes the wikipedia article I quoted above. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

If you’re having trouble getting your point across, I suggest a restatement, but this time dripping in sarcasm and liberally peppered with :rolleyes: and :dubious:. Clearly this is a more effective way to express oneself.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/75 "2010-11-30T04:06:02Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> **DMC** , your question is either rhetorical, or too obvious to answer, but since you ask, the answer is obviously no, this court was going to make Bush President no matter what legal contortions were required.

It really wasn’t rhetorical, and while I personally think the answer is obvious, that’s just my (okay, and a lot of others) opinion and I wanted to hear from others, especially those defending the decision. While **Martin Hyde** took an appreciated stab at it, and I’m not sure if I disagree him in how that particular jurist would have ruled, I was wanting a bigger picture answer, including good old Antonin, for instance.

Looks like I’m not going to get one, so we’ll be having this same conversation, with the same defenses, next time it comes up.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/76 "2010-11-30T17:34:18Z")

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I too would appreciate \*\*Martin \*\*expounding on his reasons for thinking so.

As to Scalia’s motivations, [his only public statement](http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Scalia_on_Bush_v._Gore__0125.html)about it has been

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> Get over it.

Hardly what someone who thinks he was right but was simply misunderstood would say, is it?

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/77 "2010-11-30T22:32:34Z")

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Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to ask about Ralph Nader’s legacy? If he hadn’t run for president, there wouldn’t have been have been a recount, because Al Gore would have won in a walk.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/78 "2010-11-30T22:56:46Z")

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There is more than one school of thought, and I’ve heard plausible arguments for and against putting it squarely on Nader. But, more to the point, he was willing to risk that and I don’t think he should have been.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/79 "2010-11-30T23:03:03Z")

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No, that wasn’t \*Nader’s \*fault, it was the fault of all the people who voted for him for supercilious reasons. _His_ legacy is still the Corvair stuff. Well, that, and repeated;u insisting there was no difference between Bush and Gore.

If there’s any question left about O’Connor’s legacy, well, what else is there besides her being an affirmative-action recipient?

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**Author:** ![godix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@godix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godix)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-sandra-day-oconnor-ruin-her-legacy-with-bush-vs-gore/561878/80 "2010-12-01T04:40:07Z")

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Rather than Nader’s or O’connors legacy, shouldn’t it be about Al Gore’s legacy? He is the one who was VP during 8 years of a popular president and somehow turned that into losing his own state and having to rely on a base so stupid they couldn’t punch a hole in a piece of paper.

While that sounds sarcastic, it really is serious. The fact the election came down the FL recount at all is just a sign of how bad Al Gore really was as a politician.

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