# Did Schwarzenegger compose a "Fuck You" acrostic in a veto letter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469 "2009-10-28T16:34:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/41 "2009-10-28T19:16:36Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Well, everyone who has a [Uroclub](http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/06/06/uroclub-makes-peeing.html), at least. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/42 "2009-10-28T19:17:59Z")
Since I live on the other coast, and the behavior of their governer has about as much relevance to me as the rainfall in Japan, I’m voting hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/43 "2009-10-28T20:14:14Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I love it. The Governator just rose a few notches with me. Once again, we think alike, my friend. Too! Damned! Funny! ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/44 "2009-10-28T20:20:20Z")
I don’t think it’s meant to read I FUCK YOUSA. I think it’s meant to read: I am returning Assembly Bill 1176 without my signature. Fuck you. Sincerely, Arnold Schwarzenegger ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/45 "2009-10-28T20:37:33Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > This fallacy is so tired. The idea that one cannot poke fun at one’s enemies while still governing is cliche. Different strokes for different folks, of course, but when you tell someone “fuck you,” you’re usually not poking fun at them- you’re telling them they’re fucks, and what you think about that. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/46 "2009-10-28T20:38:54Z")
The first article I read about this made it seem unintentional, because they were too pussy to write out the word “fuck.” They also didn’t show or link to the actual letter. After seeing it, definitely intentional. And awesome, and I even kinda like Amiano. I’ll be sad when Arnie leaves office. I mean, the guy has his [Conan sword](http://twitpic.com/f92jm) in his office and eats [this breakfast](http://twitpic.com/kujml) each morning. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/47 "2009-10-28T20:50:42Z")
That’s all Arnold needs, and he’s got it. Good for him! ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/48 "2009-10-28T20:55:12Z")
[http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/) There is no chance it wasn’t on purpose, and I think it’s well deserved and about time Politicians started showing some balls. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/49 "2009-10-28T20:58:20Z")
I don’t know if it was deliberate or not, but it’s an amazing coincidence if it wasn’t on purpose. It’s funny. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/50 "2009-10-28T21:00:52Z")
[Current GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=537712). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/51 "2009-10-28T21:01:57Z")
I’ve merged **wolfman** ’s thread (started in MPSIMS) with the older Great Debates thread. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/52 "2009-10-28T21:02:49Z")
Crap, I tried to do a search for it, but put it in the user name field, and rather than wait 300 seconds I just went ahead with it. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/53 "2009-10-28T21:03:19Z")
You guys are missing something very important. From [Wired](http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/schwarzenegger/): > [@](#): > > [Tom] Ammiano had strongly criticized the governor in early October and reportedly told Schwarzenegger at the time to “kiss my gay ass.” Schwarzenegger’s veto letter, issued a couple of days later, reads: T I FUCK YOUS A. I think he’s telling Ammiano that he fucks his ass, in response to Ammiano’s “kiss my gay ass.” ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/54 "2009-10-28T21:05:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Current GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=537712). I clicked on your link, and I think I went backwards in time. For whatever reason, however, under the circumstances I cant blame you for the link. Keep up the good work. My mother thanks you, my father thanks you - indeed, everyone thanks you. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/55 "2009-10-28T21:06:46Z")
FWIW, Robert Lewland, a cryptological mathematics professor, has calculated the odds against that letter sequence arising naturally as [5.5 in one trillion](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/10/fword_schwarzenegger_ammiano.html). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/56 "2009-10-28T21:09:37Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I clicked on your link, and I think I went backwards in time. > > For whatever reason, however, > under the circumstances I > cant blame you for the link. > Keep up the good work. > > My mother thanks you, my father thanks you - indeed, > everyone thanks you. > > Regards, > Shodan Yep. The Merge Button causes temporal artifacts. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/57 "2009-10-28T21:55:53Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > OMG! I just realized. The letter addresses a bill introduced by Tom Ammiano – as in, T. > > And Mr. Ammiano is a gay politician, so the “A” remark is clearly a homophobic smear!!11! So what you’re saying is that Arnold is actually _ **publicly coming on to him???** _ Doubly awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/58 "2009-10-28T21:57:55Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > and eats [this breakfast](http://twitpic.com/kujml) each morning. No wonder the Governator is in a pissy mood. Somebody stole his bacon, eggs, and grits. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/59 "2009-10-28T22:15:14Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > This fallacy is so tired. The idea that one cannot poke fun at one’s enemies while still governing is cliche. “Fuck you” qualifies as poking fun now? Seems to me more the kind of verbal lashing out one expects from junior high school kids, not a governor acting in his official capacity. It was disgraceful when Cheney did, but at least he had the excuse of speaking extemporaneously. > [@](#): > > On another board someone was trying to point out that Obama golfed too much to effectively govern as though he can’t do business on the links like everyone else in the western world. This has fuck all to do with it. > [@](#): > > :rolleyes: Back at ya. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469/60 "2009-10-28T23:14:41Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > “Fuck you” qualifies as poking fun now? Seems to me more the kind of verbal lashing out one expects from junior high school kids, not a governor acting in his official capacity. It was disgraceful when Cheney did, but at least he had the excuse of speaking extemporaneously. Welcome to reality. > [@](#): > > This has fuck all to do with it. No, the point htat you missed was that the state falling apart has fuck-all to do with it. It takes no more than ten minutes to write a note like that. It’s neither here nor there with the state falling apart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-schwarzenegger-compose-a-fuck-you-acrostic-in-a-veto-letter/515469.md?page=4)